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    kiltedforbes
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    Thats bullshit, I’m a Jew and I believe you should be able to sale whatever you want, I mean what the hell, it’s just a bunch of collectors and their weird obsessions.

    Puulaahi
    Member

    It’s just a pussy ass WW2 German Sword. What’s the big deal. Wouldn’t even consider this hateful. I am sure there are worse things than this on ebay.

    nyoki
    Member

    @kiltedforbes: @Puulaahi: You’re both prolly right, but ebay is a private company and has the right to allow or disallow anything they want.

    Puulaahi
    Member

    @Alte: For real?

    outofocus
    Member

    WWII is a touch subject with the Germans. Which is understandable.

    Awesome1
    Member

    @killedforbes: quit reinforcing stereotypes

    etiii
    Member

    Used to get my pint of White-lightnin’ from a nazi in Newport,TN.

    Elepski
    Member

    That’s BS… regardless of the meaning of it.. it is a historical item… ignoring or excluding it because it was “bad” is just stupid. I smell lawsuit.

    dieAntagonista
    Guest

    @Alte: There are enough Nazis as it is. Not only the ‘brave veterans’ would want to do it if it was OK, but the Nazis would wanna do it too. ——- There is a reason why these things are looked down upon by society. To you it may seem like it’s just a bunch of people who recognise the historic value of these things. But then there are enough other fanatics who think it’s more than just that. Do you people even realise what could happen if the wrong person gets something like this in their hands? And I don’t… Read more »

    The_Hanz
    Member

    What’s with all the jew comments? I’m sick of them using WWII as a crutch. A hell of a lot more Russians and Europeans died in the war, why does on group of people try to claim all the sympathy? Seriously.

    dieAntagonista
    Guest

    @The_Hanz:

    “What’s with all the jew comments?” – What’s with your face?

    I beg your pardon? No one is trying to claim any sympathy.
    I was talking about facts alright? It has nothing to do with Jews, it has all to do with Nazis. No one even claimed that only Jews died, so what is your problem.

    Luke Magnifico
    Member

    @Alte: What? Not allowed show their Kill-100-Innocent-Jewish-Civilians badge?

    Preposterous!

    If you attempt genocide, then there will be repercussions.

    Luke Magnifico
    Member

    @Alte: Also, they barely fought for their own country’ By the time they fought for their country, they had already lost the war. They were fighting for the countries they had stolen.

    dieAntagonista
    Guest

    Damn right. What Luke said.

    traptin85
    Member

    ITS HISTORY!!!!!!
    you could probably sell a Quran on Ebay, and just look at the Muslims!!!!

    Marrock
    Member

    A friend of my uncle who was injured in WW2 had the shrapnel made into a pendant he wore constantly.

    Used to say it was more important than any medal he could have gotten since it was easy to survive having a medal pinned to you, it was considerably more serious when they tried to tag you with what made the shrapnel.

    dieAntagonista
    Guest

    Nice. We’ve got already one guy who accuses Jews of taking advantage of people because of WW2. Then another one who compares Islam to the genocide of 6 million people. Now we need at least two more. One who claims that Hitler was an atheist, and another one who claims Hitler did what he did in the name of Christianity. @traptin85: Nobody claimed that it’s not history, you dipshit. I don’t know about where you’re from, but in my country they usually put stuff like this in a museum. See what kind of people a post like this attracts. And… Read more »

    nyoki
    Member

    It’s more ridiculous to ignore the connection of German WWII artifacts from the Nazi reign and what they did than to ignore that there are people who are truly interested in the overall history of Germany in WWII while not condoning what the Nazis did. They can not and should not be separated. The only thing I have ever really heard Jews say is “Never Forget”. That it could happen in ultra-civilized Europe was shocking to people and it is certainly a lesson that needs to be learned and remembered.

    TrayShadix
    Member

    Just sell it privately; I’d be amazed if one of us 5,000 didn’t want it just for conversation/historical value. How much was asking price?

    nyoki
    Member

    It is partly because the Jews are keeping the memory alive. Part of it is because the Germans themselves have are acknowledging that part of their past. But I think mostly it’s because it was so deliberate. The idea behind it was so calculated. 6,000,000 Jews (and others) died because the Nazis (Hitler in particular) needed a scapegoat. They were chosen simply because they were separate and easy to direct hate at. They were not political prisoners; they were not criminals; they were living their life and in a few short months they were decimated. Stalin committed genocide no doubt.… Read more »

    dieAntagonista
    Guest

    @Alte: How many people are there still in the US who think they need to kill Native Americans? The Russians never wanted to eradicate an entire race either. If you sell stuff like this to the wrong person, you cannot know who they are and why they want it. YES it is of historic value, so what? And excuse me, but you don’t know how many rich Nazis are out there or not. There are people who would do anything to get their hands on this stuff because they approve of what the people did back then. So then what?… Read more »

    Goldfinger
    Member

    @nyokki:
    No, we shouldn’t forget that lesson. Just take a look at the Magyar Gárda in Hungary.

    dieAntagonista
    Guest

    And yes I admit that my opinion is fucking biased I don’t care.

    I appreciate freedom alright, but not if there’s a chance that some wacko is going to use a rusty sword to stab some black person or a Jew.

    And nobody argued my point yet, if it’s of historic value then put it into a fucking museum. When was the last time an atheist tried to buy the skeleton of a dinosaur because they believe in evolution and they value the evidence for it? Jesus Christ.

    Goldfinger
    Member

    I can only second dieAntagonista’s statement. In my home village latent and open racism are even part of the ‘normal’ youth culture. Those are no skinheads but you should hear them talking about Jews, foreigners and whatnot.

    Destro
    Member

    we are trying to make up for it. WHY? I am responsible for my actions alone. I will not support any initiative that seeks recompense from me for the actions of assholes I have nothing to do with, just because I was born in the U.S.A.. My contribution to the world right now is to refrain from personally killing people I don’t like and stealing their stuff. WE DID A NUMBER. no WE didn’t, not you not me or anyone you will ever know. If you gotta preach history FINE, but don’t try to assign blame generations after the fact,… Read more »

    vygramul
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    @dieAntagonista

    The Russians didn’t want to eradicate an entire race?

    Let’s ask some Ukrainians and Prussians (if you can even find the latter) about that.

    They were more patient than the Nazis were, but starving the Ukraine (for example) was hardly NOT attempting genocide.

    nyoki
    Member

    @Destro: Dude, get over yourself. We are trying to make up for it because it was the gov’t that perpetrated those acts. So the gov’t is responsible for recompensing those that are left. It doesn’t necessarily matter that it wasn’t me specifically. It does matter that because of the actions of the gov’t some years ago that certain peoples are in a reduced state. It becomes our obligation to try to recompense for it. Do you think the current gov’t should not pay the Japanese families of those whose property was confiscated in WWII? Should we not give back land… Read more »

    asymon
    Member

    “So remember kids, dressing up like Hitler in school isn’t cool.”

    Nazis@WW2: Epic fail!

    asymon
    Member

    @dieAntagonista: Jews are not a race. Also Gypsies are not. These are NATIONS.

    dieAntagonista
    Guest

    @Goldfinger: Danke.

    @Alte:

    How about addressing the points I mentioned?
    I NEVER said anything that would imply that I equate an army dagger with the killing of Jews. But guess what, there are people who do. Whether you like to admit it or not.
    But it’s OK I see you have no real arguments so you’re afraid of replying to me. Tough shit.

    And as my dear father always says, “Tatsachen schafft man nicht dadurch aus der Welt, dass man sie ignoriert.”

    dieAntagonista
    Guest

    @asymon: Does it make you feel better if I call them Hebrews. Personally I don’t believe it’s really a race either, but fact is the majority of Jews believe it’s a race. Are you going to tell them what they are or not?

    And no, Gypsies aren’t a nation? What in the world are you talking about.

    Badmoonrising
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    Badmoonrising

    Some of you people are wofeully fucking ignorant. Wermacht is regular army, conscripts, draftees and those that wanted to fight for their country but were not Nazi’s. Not the Wafffen which is SS and were all Nazi Party members. That means it ain’t Nazi, the person who carried and used it almost certainly wasn’t a Nazi.

    dieAntagonista
    Guest

    @Badmoonrising:
    Ignorant my ass. The problem is that you don’t get the point. Neo-Nazis don’t give a shit about what you said even if it’s true. These people are crazy for stuff like this, but obviously you have never met any or you would be aware of that.
    And if it really was that harmless, than companies like eBay wouldn’t have a problem with it.

    Badmoonrising
    Member
    Badmoonrising

    Your logic is somewhat circular, companies like Ebay ban this stuff because of ignorance and laziness aa well as the dread desire to avoid any possible sniff of upsetting someone. Ergo it gets smeared with unfair Nazi connotations. It seems damned unfair to me to call someone a Nazi for serving in their country’s army anymore than it is fair to call any american vet a murdering child killing cunt for crispy frying Japan with a nuke. Regarding if it is true or not, I invite you to look it up. There are a variety of historical works on the… Read more »

    KommissarKvC
    Member

    seriously, its most likely some little pissant who had a couple of relatives go to a camp in WW2, and now that they work for Ebay, they think they can go on a witch-hunt against anything WW2 german

    if they want to have a cry, they should look at all the ‘Mein Kampf’ and ‘Triumph of the Wills’ items that are on ebay

    dieAntagonista
    Guest

    @Alte: Further proof that you can’t comprehend any of the things I’ve said. I didn’t call you a Neo-Nazi nor have I said anything that implies such. You know exactly what I said, but like I mentioned before, you’re afraid of facing the possible consequences of your doings. I didn’t question your motives, I questioned the motives of those that want to buy your stuff. Please, do me a favour and actually try to bring some arguments up against the things I have ACTUALLY said. Too hard? Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t see any beauty in German war… Read more »

    Luke Magnifico
    Member

    What is the reason people want these items, then, Alte? Is it so they can look at them every now and then, and glare, and say “Never Forget”?

    No

    Because the people who buy these kind of things don’t care whether it’s Nazi or Wehrmacht. They just think “Fuck yes, German WW2, probably still has Jewblood on it, awww fuck yeah”.

    And that is the truth.

    dieAntagonista
    Guest

    @LukeV1-5: I love you

    the3g_ipwn
    Member

    @LukeV1-5: @dieAntagonista: I know I’m a little late to the ball, and while I don’t share the pig-headed views of your counterparts in this thread, I would only like to ask where you two get the audacity to question someone elses motives. Perhaps there are those who are facinated with WW2 and are a collector of memorabilia from ALL countries involved. It was, after all, all out war on the largest scale the world has ever witnessed. I’m sure there are a few such collectors. I also agree that Ebay is more concerned with their image than the feelings of… Read more »

    dieAntagonista
    Guest

    @the3g_ipwn:

    Alte mentioned that he wanted to sell it topeople in Europe. I happen to live in Austria and I know a LOT of Neo Nazis who love stuff like this.
    You really need to come here and visit these countries to see how accepted antisemitism is. i#m not just making this up. if you knew the people I know you would understand why all this is so obvious to me.

    Luke Magnifico
    Member

    @dieAntagonista: You will never have me. I am a leaf on the wind.

    @the3g_ipwn: Where do I get the audacity, the right to say these things, to make these heinous generalizations without fear of redress?

    It’s quite simple. I’m just a motherfucker.

    Luke Magnifico
    Member

    Also @dieAntagonista: , but not the first part, I don’t live in Austria. And I only know like 3 Neo Nazis, and 2 of them not so well.

    But I know a buttload of Jews. And they’re fucking angry.

    dieAntagonista
    Guest

    @LukeV1-5: That sure is fortunate then. I want only the things I can’t have.

    i’m only part Jewish though. And I can’t reallyget angry at anyone. Doesn’t matter how many wonderful English curse words I use. I couldn’t hurt a fly. But should you evr need a cheap replacemetn for one of those angry Jews

    Destro
    Member

    @nyokki don’t worry your little head, I AM over myself. America is a nation of immigrants. Most of these New Americans (1950 onward)had nothing to do with White Americas shitty history. why should all americans pay for the misdeeds of a few long dead chumps. Find the rich schmucks whose family fortune is a result of american history and ask them for a hand out. but keep your white guilt out of my ethnically diverse federal government. I’m only part white and my non-white half doesn’t want to pay for your grandfathers bigotry. conceptually speaking getting screwed over for being… Read more »

    nyoki
    Member

    @Destro: First, I apologize for being condescending. I come off badly sometimes.
    That said: There is no such thing as history being nothing more than history. It’s impossible to get beyond history w/out acknowledging and understanding it. You want to start from zero. What does that mean? Whose zero would we start w/? Again, I say that I do not agree w/ the way we’re handling the problems but I do honestly think that they do need to be dealt w/.

    SumoSnipe
    Member
    SumoSnipe

    Something missing here….Alte stated he bought the blade off of EBay in the first place……How did that happen?

    nyoki
    Member

    @SumoSnipe: Perhaps ebay has changed its rules in the interim.

    nyoki
    Member
    SumoSnipe
    Member
    SumoSnipe

    @nyokki: That is a total jackass of a father. I got into plenty of fights over teasing about my name in school, but those kids are going to be tortured. Would have done better naming him Sue, for fuck’s sake.

    nyoki
    Member

    @SumoSnipe: If he had any guts he would have changed his own name not his kids’.

    The_Hanz
    Member

    dieAntagonista is part jew? Ovens break down for your grandparents? Get off your high horse.

    SumoSnipe
    Member
    SumoSnipe

    @nyokki: agreed.

    Luke Magnifico
    Member

    @The_Hanz: Not all Jews lived in Germany, you motherfucking scum. When someone finally kills you, I will laugh, long and hard, my booming chuckles echoing off hills and through valleys, dispersing across the globe, and children will hear the sound and be amazed, and begin to laugh. And, as my laughter courses through the minds of people, who laugh in turn, and spread the joy, my laughter will be felt worldwide, and billions of people will feel overwhelming joy and satisfaction, all because your worthless, pathetic life, dedicated to jerking weakly to kiddie porn and thinking yourself a great man… Read more »

    dieAntagonista
    Guest

    @LukeV1-5: This made my day.

    Though you’re not doing a very good job at making me like you less.

    Destro
    Member

    @nyokki History is written by the victors. In my humble opinion that makes history fairly biased. I guess what I’m trying to say is that acknowledging and understanding the holocaust and other massive human tragedies, still does not address the problem of an entire society rationalizing the oppression (or systematic eradication) of an entire people. we’ve had this knowledge for at least 50 years, yet murder is still condoned for A or B reason by almost every governing body on the earth. The zero we need to start from is the uniform agreement across the board that it is never… Read more »

    Luke Magnifico
    Member

    @dieAntagonista: You can’t say I’m not doing my best.

    The_Hanz
    Member

    Luke, they fit if your oven at home if you cut them up Mr. Internet Tough Guy!

    KommissarKvC
    Member

    @The_Hanz:

    1] I just double-checked, and yes, they still have mein kampf on Ebay, so WTF is the deal with a wehrmacht dagger?

    2] Luke, about those angry jews, have you ever met one that got pissed off when they saw die-cast 1/35 plastic german soldiers,…I have and i still think its f**ked up

    3] Hanz, if you want to kill jews, do you have to obey the rules of Kosher and make sure they die in the proper way?

    SumoSnipe
    Member
    SumoSnipe

    @LukeV1-5: I think you found riverdaledragons’ lost brother

    nyoki
    Member

    @Destro: Someone breaks the rules…then what?

    Destro
    Member

    @ nyokki
    well if someone breaks the rules, we certainly should not attempt to make their grandchildren or great grandchildren have to answer for it. Or even bear the moral burden of their progenitors illicit behavior. We should allow these descendants the opportunity to prove their own integrity and not automatically hang the onus of the past upon them because of their genetic lineage.

    nyoki
    Member

    @Destro: How can they, if we keep resetting the clock?

    KommissarKvC
    Member

    @Destro: You Sir are correct no-one hangs the halo of shame over the americans for so many years of using black slaves across most of america, or the dutch for their starting the slave trade most people dont even know about Pol Pot’s planned genocide in cambodia no-one really cares about Stalin much anymore, in fact last I heard, about a quarter of Russians today would vote for him if they had a chance So why keep crying about WW2? simple its easy when you have jews like Steven Speilberg making blockbuster movies about WW2 and how evil germans apparently… Read more »

    dieAntagonista
    Guest

    @Alte: When was the last time you have been to Austria? Do you have any idea what the situation here is? Did you know that unlike other fine countries like America, Austria doesn’t keep record of racist/ discrimination crimes? There is only one private organisation who tries to do that, but they don’t have enough money to do a proper job. Did you know that in all of Europe, Austria is the one country with the HIGHEST rate of racist/discrimination crimes? And the numbers aren’t even anywhere near the real number because like I mentioned, only poor volunteers try to… Read more »

    nyoki
    Member

    The very fact that it has happened across the globe and is still happening today, is the reason we can not and should not forget it. If the families of the victims of Pol Pot, Stalin, Darfur, etc…were as determined as the Jews to say “Never forget!”, then perhaps we would all know of the other genocides throughout the centuries. The fact that it is only the Holocaust that gets discussed, shows that one group…the Jews have said: Never again. This must stop.

    dieAntagonista
    Guest

    @Alte: Where did I claim that I’m in favour of burning any books? Keep your poor assumptions to yourself. And I don’t care how many years you have lived in Europe, fact is you are not living in Austria right now therefore you can not know what the situation here is. Do you really still think it’s a good idea to sell Nazi gear to certain Europeans? Just look at this thread! How many obvious Nazis have already gathered here? Wake up you oblivious man. And guess what, my father is an Arab. And no, Arabs aren’t the only ones… Read more »

    Destro
    Member

    but the fact is the holocaust isn’t the only genocide that gets discussed, it’s simply the one that gets talked about the most, but then again Jewish people are known for and proud of their penchant for complaining, i’m not trying to imply anything anti-semetic, simply hypothesizing on the reason for other human injustices being below most peoples radar. furthermore the knowledge of human-kinds bloody history has done little to stem the flow of new atrocities, which leads me to believe mere awareness of the past is not enough, and maybe even unnecessary as far as communicating the importance of… Read more »

    dieAntagonista
    Guest

    Wow I despise you people. Seriously, with all my heart. I’ve been discriminated against my entire life. I don’t care if people think that the holocaust happened or not. Just treat me like any other fucking human being even if I’m not white. I have never in my life complained to anyone because of the people who treated me like shit because of my background. Only now do I recognise the importance of speaking up. None of you has ever been in my shoes, and I bet none of you is part of any minority yet you think you know… Read more »

    Destro
    Member

    @ dieAntagonista I hope you’re are not directing that comment in my direction. if you’re as jewish as you say you ought to know what to Kvetch means, thats all I was saying. The art of complaining is built into the hebrew language giving Jewish (not JEWS) people an edge when it comes to making their point of view persist. What I’ve been discussing with nyokki isn’t whether or not the holocaust happened, or even whether or not the history should be taught, but whether or not mere awareness is enough to prevent such evil from taking place again. I… Read more »

    dieAntagonista
    Guest

    @Destro: Sorry yeah it was your comment that made me snap. I mentioned the holocaust just because others have mentioned it. And I meant that I don’t expect any pity because of it. I don’t want to be treated better just because my mother was Jewish. But I don’t want to be treated worse because of that either. Did you know that Jews don’t have to pay taxes in Austria? It’s ridiculous. I haven’t yet commented on this but I totally agree with you. It’s outrageous to me that a German/ Austrian should feel bad because of other German’s/ Austrian’s… Read more »

    Destro
    Member

    @ dieAntagonista Thank you, I apologize if my comment was insensitive, I myself am of Irish, German,Iroquois, Colombian, Dutch, French descent, a real American mutt and as such I have a hard time getting behind anyones cultural or ethnocentric bias. I find Nationalism, and Patriotism to distract from Humanism and gives selfish people the excuse they need to look down on others. I guess I’m an idealist with regards to the solution concerning generational violence, it’s almost too simple, one should merely treat others with the deference and respect that they would desire for themselves, whatever their ethnic or national… Read more »

    nyoki
    Member

    @Destro: @dieAntagonista: I think we agree more than we disagree. I did not mean to suggest that mere awareness is sufficient, though I do think it is necessary. We can’t simply keep resetting the clock. If someone attempts what Hitler did and succeeds at the rate he did, then it’s not over in any one person’s lifetime. The effects linger for generations. WWII ended and what happened? Did we start from zero? No, we pursued and brought as many guilty parties to justice. This has taken several generations to accomplish and we still don’t have them all accounted for. History… Read more »



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