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December 17, 2008 at 4:23 pm
“I don’t see much future for the Americans … it’s a decayed country. And they have their racial problem, and the problem of social inequalities … my feelings against Americanism are feelings of hatred and deep repugnance…everything about the behaviour of American society reveals that it’s half Judaised, and the other half negrified. How can one expect a State like that to hold together?”
– Adolph Hitler, master of false predictions
December 17, 2008 at 4:47 pm
did he really say negrified?
AWESOME
December 17, 2008 at 5:56 pm
@natedog: Probably not, since he spoke German.
December 17, 2008 at 6:15 pm
My role models.
December 17, 2008 at 6:24 pm
@dieAntagonista: Hitler was only wrong because he lost
@natedog: NEGRIFIED?! I think the better word is niggardly. Example sentence, that Jew was stereotypically niggardly.
December 17, 2008 at 6:53 pm
@Tardex: So do you think Hitler was right?
December 17, 2008 at 7:54 pm
I think negrified sums it up pretty well, assuming he was talking about the mixing of races.
December 17, 2008 at 8:00 pm
@goblin0: By the gods no! But it still doesn’t effect the validity of my statement. Anyway, since when has there ever been a calm white supremacist?
December 17, 2008 at 8:30 pm
@goblin0:
If he had won we’d be seeing similar posters but from a very different perspective. Tardex is just pointing out that he’s wrong at least in part because he lost and the winning side has made damn sure everyone knows he was wrong. Demonizing the enemy is kind of regular practice.
Ever wonder what people would be saying about America now if it had lost? What secrets got hidden about disgusting things the Allies did?
PS: Negrifried chicken. That is all.
December 18, 2008 at 5:27 am
“Naturally, the common people don’t want war, but after all, it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.”
Hermann Goering
December 18, 2008 at 6:49 am
????
Those aren’t real quotes. Neither Hitler or Staline EVER said those things. Whats the point?? Who made those crappy posters? Is that for a computer game or soemthing? idiots, innit?
December 18, 2008 at 6:51 am
1-just take a picture of a historic figure
2-make up a quote
3-post on MCF
4-??????
5-profit
December 18, 2008 at 8:55 am
@Tardex: @mAgnUS BUTTfoorson: I don’t doubt that history is written by the victors, its an unfortunate truth which blurs the line between historical fact and fiction but saying Hitler was ONLY wrong because he lost is a complete fallacy.
Unfortunately there is no universal truth to any historical events. For example two people witnessing an event are likely to give slightly varying accounts of what the saw and thus history as we record it can never be totally validated.
That being said our allied viewpoint of Hitler may be smudged but the man is still guilty of mass genocide.
December 18, 2008 at 10:06 am
@goblin0:
If Germany had won would you even know about that though?
Conversely because Allies lost couldn’t there be something pretty nasty we don’t know about?
I’m saying its most likely both sides were doing a lot wrong. But the one won and now we see nothing but brave men doing great things when referring to them and nothing but horned monsters eating babies when we see anything German.
December 18, 2008 at 10:07 am
conversely because the Allies won…
sorry, typing a few things at once here
December 18, 2008 at 12:43 pm
@Tardex:
Im a firm supporter of Humanity, and I am quite calm.
The sad problem, is that most white power are of the skinhead or neo-nazi sub-types,
they are usually young and angry at the world since Democracy runs a [great] system where if you want to get anywhere in life, it either costs tons to afford, and/or has tons more paperwork and bureaucracy to even make a start
that, and the great Democratic policies of giving special treatment to whichever minority group cries hardest at the time, while ignoring the white majority.
and at the end of the day, most of these white supremacist types usually get disillusioned with the whole race issue, for one reason or another, and end up going liberal and making friends with other races
true National Socialists, however, keep going with a neo-military style sense of duty to what they believe in
December 18, 2008 at 1:00 pm
@mAgnUS BUTTfoorson:
I don’t doubt that allied forces performed controversial acts, the bombing of Dresden for instance.
Stalin killed far more people than Hitler (30million+) and yet he is not seen as anywhere near as evil, more than likely because Russia was part of the allied forces so these things were just ignored.
I totally agree with what you are saying mAgnUS BUTTfoorson, we won and thus we are the heroes in the history books irrespective of our own actions. We are just as responsible for what acts we committed and should be held accountable for any wrong doings just as much as the enemy should.
My point is simply that Hitler was not wrong JUST because he lost, but because he was an evil dictator who performed severe crimes against humanity that ultimately bit off more than he could chew (Should have learnt from Napoleons Russian mistake)
December 18, 2008 at 5:35 pm
@goblin0:
hitler lived in a little dreamworld where all the crap he saw in WW1 somehow still applied to WW2, hence why so many generals were executed for trying to use new tactics against his will, and its a good thing people went behind his back or half the new weapons wouldnt have been made
We had the StG44 because people ignored him [and because of the StG44, the russians made the AK47, so they win too]
It is sad that Hitler caused the deaths of so many humans, but on the flip side, he killed so many jews to, so it [almost] equals out
December 18, 2008 at 9:47 pm
@Andre666:
It still gets the point across.
December 19, 2008 at 12:31 pm
@Andre666:
the proper Stalin quote went more like:
“It is not about who votes that counts, but rather who counts the votes”
I know ive read that somewhere, just cant remember the book