Comments on: Karl Marx Quote on Religion

By: mrmilner

mrmilner — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:07:10 +0000

*picks up first edition copy of “case for communism”* hell i could clean up this little argument but meh im enjoying the trolling too much
oh and just for a little flame bait capitalism isnt all that briliant if america was communist this little resesion we are having would not have happened not letting the little people think sometimes has its advantage

By: rattybad

rattybad — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:08:48 +0000

Pffft…Marx was a plagiarist. Voltaire said the same thing 100 years earlier.

By: englishelectriclightning

englishelectriclightning — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 22:41:59 +0000

This quote is truly the only thing Marx was correct in asserting.And he certainly did not originate this thought.

By: dusktime

dusktime — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 13:01:26 +0000

The most logical, sound Marxist quotes I’ve heard were probably Groucho’s.

By: Phyreblade

Phyreblade — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 02:06:53 +0000

@Paul_Is_Drunk: People misuse Ad Hominem?

By: Puulaahi

Puulaahi — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:56:29 +0000

@dusktime: The t-shirt is probably made in China.

By: dusktime

dusktime — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:26:04 +0000

I lived in a Communist country for two years before it collapsed and then worked in and around two others for 18 years. A good summary quote seen for sale on the web somewhere:

“Communism killed 100 million people and all I got was this t-shirt.”

By: dieAntagonista

dieAntagonista — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 02:14:58 +0000

@Puulaahi: Sounds good. Great now I won't be satisfied until I have read it too. Yeah that's why I love the people from back then.

By: Puulaahi

Puulaahi — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 01:48:33 +0000

@dieAntagonista: I am reading Herodotus - The Histories right now for fun. It's a tough read too. People back then certainly had an eloquence when writing.

By: Obiwanbeeohbee

Obiwanbeeohbee — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 01:40:31 +0000

I’m sorry, but I believe it was Mao Tse Tung that said this, not Marx?”

By: the3g_ipwn

the3g_ipwn — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 01:32:01 +0000

If you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to your mountain, “MOVE!” and it WILL move… and NOTHING will be impossible for YOU!

By: dieAntagonista

dieAntagonista — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 01:12:38 +0000

@sylvanish: True, true and true. Especially this one is a winner: "Religion must remain an outlet for people who say to themselves, â€œI am not the kind of person I want to be.â€"

By: dieAntagonista

dieAntagonista — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 01:10:32 +0000

@Puulaahi: @Skifter: Ah yes, most people don't find the bible as amazing as I do (not even Christians), and granted, it wasn't until I have read various interpretations of the bible that I thought, it's one of the most amazing stories ever written. I actually believe the bible is true. Not 100%, and Jesus certainly wasn't the son of any god, but for instance, him healing all those people - it's absolutely possible. Without any magic or anything. But that's another story. The bible is a book that you can't read just like any other book. It's a challenge in a way. I may read one passage today and I find that it's about courage, tomorrow I'll read it again and suddenly it's about cowardice. Puulaahi, but yeah I do see your point. It appears that it's those pleasurable things that you find exciting. I on the other hand am much more excited about the idea of people burning a woman because they thought she was witch. Or people having orgies in churches because they got infected with the pest and think it's Judgement Day. But don't get me wrong, I find any and all mythologies amazingly interesting as well. But so far I haven't read the right book, nor have I met the right person to talk about it. When I want to discuss events in the bible, I just have to walk across the street to the church. @RSIxidor: Thanks for the Internets, same goes to you.

By: Skifter

Skifter — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 00:40:41 +0000

@dieAntagonista
I’ll see your Bible and raise you Stranger in a Strange Land. (Not that I ever finished reading the Bible, I just skipped to the end to find out who did it.)

By: RSIxidor

RSIxidor — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 00:29:58 +0000

@Puulaahi: Viking mythology is incredibly cool. Some of the craziest stuff I've read. I was once given a book that was separated into thirds (Roman/Greek/Norse and Germanic), I hardly remember any of the Roman and Greek parts.

By: RSIxidor

RSIxidor — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 00:28:09 +0000

I'm greatly enjoying this thread. You guys are doing a great job of political discussion as opposed to retarded flaming. Good for you. +50 Internets for you all. @Paul_Is_Drunk: I absolutely agree, I was just attempting to show by example that a communist movement will lead to dictatorship regardless of its purest ideals. @Destro: Heck yeah. I like social programs, I like that we have some system of welfare in our country. When I have a problem is usually on two points: 1. They try to take more of my money than I feel they should be (I know many will say any, but its honestly not the way I feel). 2. Those who are helped by these programs allow them to be a crutch. I feel these programs need to have better encouragement for getting out of them towards self generation of wealth.

By: Puulaahi

Puulaahi — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 00:27:34 +0000

@dieAntagonista: I find Viking, Hawaiian, Native American…etc mythology more exciting. Definitely plan to read more.

Had Bible class in Jr. High, really didn’t find the bible that interesting. A couple good stories in there though.

In Ancient Greece, Dionysus festivals usually consisted of drinking wine w/out water. They drank it mixed with water back then, due to not so good water quality. Lot’s of prancing around naked and public sex.

The Roman pagans had to be even more exciting.

By: dieAntagonista

dieAntagonista — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:49:21 +0000

@Puulaahi:
I don’t know, are you sure? The bible is one of the most amazing books I have ever read. I wouldn’t want to live my life after its philosophy, but damn, there still needs a book to be written which is this awesome. There is a lot of interesting information about Pagan cults too, but I haven’t come across anything as specific as the bible (for example).
If you know more than me, then go ahead and illuminate me.

By: sylvanish

sylvanish — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:47:33 +0000

Much that was called religion has carried an unconscious attitude of hostility toward life. True religion must teach that life is filled with joys pleasing to the eye of God, that knowledge without action is empty. All men must see that the teaching of religion by rules and rote is largely a hoax. The proper teaching is recognized with ease. You can know it without fail because it awakens within you that sensations which tells you this is something you’ve always known.
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Religion must remain an outlet for people who say to themselves, “I am not the kind of person I want to be.” It must never sink into an assemblage of the self-satisfied.

By: Destro

Destro — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:33:43 +0000

Politics and organized religion are both about control.
@RSixdor
I believe in social responsibility, and I’m not against socialist tenents, but I need to ultimately be in control of my productivity, not my government.
If people were not historically proven to get greedy when given power, then communism would work just fine but someone has to account for the distribution of resources, so there has to be a limit to how much of my productivity they can allocate to whatever social/financial/militaristic endeavor that the party says is best for everyone.

By: Paul_Is_Drunk

Paul_Is_Drunk — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:28:32 +0000

@quigonben: Are you saying legalize marijuana? Because I hear you telling me to legalize marijuana.

By: Puulaahi

Puulaahi — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:27:00 +0000

@dieAntagonista: Pagan cults would be 10X more exciting than organized religion. Greeks and Romans religious festivals had to be a party. Especially the Dionysus one.

By: dieAntagonista

dieAntagonista — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:10:17 +0000

True, but this one was more about politics.
If there was no organised religion, life would be pretty dull. Not many outrageous things to talk about.

By: Theo11

Theo11 — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:05:41 +0000

Fact: Religious posts receive a lot of comments.

By: dieAntagonista

dieAntagonista — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:52:59 +0000

@quigonben:
Very interesting. But you know, alleviating your own pain is one thing, trying to force the rest to do the same, even if they don’t feel any pain – that’s another thing.

And I’d also like to mention those very sick people who are in constant pain, they want to alleviate their pain too. Even if that means that they have to die. Which is often not possible because of the people you speak of, also known as pro-lifers. (I know, not everybody, just some)