Karl Marx Quote on Religion

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Religion is the opiate of the masses.
-Karl Marx


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    Paul_Is_Drunk
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    Ad hominem in 3… 2… 1…

    Paul_Is_Drunk
    Member

    Oh, and for those that keep misusing ad hominem:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

    The-Penetrator
    Member

    A Karl Marx Quote ? Wow, thanks for nothing.

    Screw Karl and the rest of his Karl schoolboy bitches.

    natedog
    Member

    You could drag humankind almost anywhere by manipulating the enormous energies of procreation. You could goad humans into actions they would never have believed possible. …This energy must have an outlet. Bottle it up and it becomes monstrously dangerous. Redirect it and it will sweep over anything in its path. This is an ultimate secret of all religions.

    ~Bashar Miles Teg

    Destro
    Member

    we will follow a different path.

    see how well THAT worked.

    Vent
    Member

    or there’s the equally as true:
    “Opiate is the religion of the masses.”

    asdf
    Member

    “karl marx is the opiate of the masses”
    GOD

    Namelis1
    Member

    Look, I don’t really care what this guy is saying. He is a communist-freedom-hating-bastard, and nothing that he says can be true.

    The Matrix: Rebooted
    Member

    @Paul_Is_Drunk: You called that one perfectly. Although Namelis1 took his time.

    dieAntagonista
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    dieAntagonista

    I for one, like communists.

    8870949
    Member

    Namelis1, i have a sneeking suspicion that you are either A) a republican B) a troll or C) all of the above

    dieAntagonista
    Guest
    dieAntagonista

    @8870949: Try sarcasm.

    GermanKommissar
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    GermanKommissar

    1) Vent is a druggie FAIL
    2) Marx is jewish, and by saying religion is the opiate of the masses, he means he wants all forms of life to be addicted to judaism and no other religion
    3) Communism FTW
    4) Tacos Rule

    Gouki4u
    Member

    Karl only said that because he lived in a time before television.

    DCR
    Member

    @Gouki4u:
    Watterson only said that because he drew that comic before the intarblogwebsphere went high speed.

    Calvin & Hobbes for the win!

    Louis E.
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    Louis E.

    Resistance is futile.

    Marrock
    Member

    “I do not trust any russian. As soon as a russian worms his way in, all hell breaks loose.” –Karl Marx

    Namelis1
    Member

    @8870949: Republican trolls don’t exist. Republicans cant use technology and computers.

    Now if I was a banjo player, it would be a whole different story.

    dieAntagonista
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    dieAntagonista

    “Doo bee doo bee doo.” -Sinatra

    Kishi
    Member

    Marx, why you gotta look down on opiates like that?

    Paul_Is_Drunk
    Member

    @reboot: I have 45 minutes here. What was the over/under on that?

    Paul_Is_Drunk
    Member

    @dieAntagonista: Sarcastameters don’t work online.

    The recommended path to take is following sarcastic comments with a tongue smiley, 😛 -or- =P, or if you loath smileys, sarcastic html text, making it sarcasm^2. Example: /sarcasm

    This has been your 30 second guide to using sarcasm online.

    dieAntagonista
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    dieAntagonista

    @Paul_Is_Drunk:
    Haha nice, very nice.
    Yeah that or you know the people who post on here. Like in Namelis1’s case, who is an atheist who likes to leave sarcastic comments. A lot.
    And it wouldn’t have been funny if he made it clear that he’s being sarcastic.

    Cruddychicken
    Member

    But religion is awesome, magic invisible spacemen give you the right to feel superior to (and judgmental over) we lowly types who don’t need fiction and fear to be moral, decent people.

    outofocus
    Member

    Opiate for some, cocaine for others and valium for a few.

    Namelis1
    Member

    Please someone feed the troll. I need to compensate for my insecurity.

    Namelis1
    Member

    also
    @Kishi: That made my day.

    RSIxidor
    Member

    @natedog:

    That actually made my day. Need to read the books with him again. What a bad ass.

    RSIxidor
    Member

    @Namelis1:

    Hey, my day was made first! I just hadn’t posted it yet!

    RSIxidor
    Member

    @RSIxidor:

    You waited 20 minutes to post a comment? Fucking idiot!

    Destro
    Member

    show me a successful communist nation,
    that also respects the rights of human beings.
    The very concept that a human is deserving of certain basic liberties (like the freedom to make you own decisions about the use your money and spirituality or lack thereof )is a product of western civilization, just like capitalism.
    you pinkos have never experienced first hand the outcome of your socialist beliefs.
    But you will soon.

    …also knowing that communism is idealistic and dangerous because idealism and reality ARE DIFFERENT THINGS, does not automatically a republican make.

    Puulaahi
    Member

    @Destro: Hate or like communism.

    Religion is a fucking opiate.

    In truth there is no truly successful form of government because humanity itself is flawed. Yes, even democracy. Especially a capitalist one.

    “Idealism” occurs in every political hemisphere buddy. As does extremism. Which everyone seems to focus on . The sane people on both sides of the American political spectrum rarely are heard. So we just hear the over opinionated extremes screaming on both sides. Amplified by the media.

    dieAntagonista
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    dieAntagonista

    There is no such thing as a successful anything nation.
    I think communism could ‘work’ if there was a way to have a communist nation without a dictator. But that is practically impossible.

    Ukwarlock
    Member

    Wow, so many people here that dont understand the difference between Marxism and Communism.
    And God Help us all if Wikipedia is the first stop for reference.

    Destro
    Member

    @ Puulaahi What is capitalistic idealism? I never said democratic capitalism wasn’t flawed. But so far it has kept me fed and comfortable. Can the AVERAGE citizen of a communist nation claim to lead a kush life of luxury. Because in the U.S. even the homeless don’t HAVE to sleep on the street; if they do it’s usually because they’ve ignored the govt. programs that exist to help them because it’s too much effort. @dieantagonista You are correct. It is practically impossible to have a communist nation without a dictator ( i can’t think of one), and it is exactly… Read more »

    Destro
    Member

    @Ukwarlock
    Chicken and the egg?
    Show me a Marxist nation.
    Wiki? Try Britannica (printed on paper and bound in leather).

    When I was a teen I thought Marx was awesome, then I learned about Lenin who thought Marx was the tits, and how that led to Stalin, Kruchev, gulags etc.
    How many millions died in Guantanamo?

    Paul_Is_Drunk
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    @Destro:
    Bart: What religion are you?
    Homer: You know, the one with all the well-meaning rules that don’t work out in real life. Uh… Christianity.

    Except replace for communism. Or not. Goes both ways.

    By the way, I just reread Leviticus online while bored at work. Damn. Jews (old testament) loved to inject morality into their religion. Explains a lot of things now-a-days.

    RSIxidor
    Member

    @Destro: Re: Homeless: Excellent point about the socialist tenets already alive in America, due to a democratic nation wanting to help themselves or the less fortunate. Re: Communism sans Dictatorship: I found this to be one the ironic things about communism of any sort. If the idea is a commune working together for the good of the commune, why should there be a figurehead? Would that not raise him above the community. The idea of a commune worked for a time for Christians, too, and now we have the Roman Catholic church, because the figurehead shifted from a being only… Read more »

    Paul_Is_Drunk
    Member

    @RSIxidor: Figureheads are needed because of the “too many cooks in the kitchen” or “designed by committee” principle. Just look at the UN. It has no real figurehead (purely ceremonial) and it gets jack-all done. The founding fathers knew this, and that’s why they established the executive branch. This is also why the Romans had the Consuls. Thought the Marian reforms really messed that one up in the long run. It’s also just plain true that certain people will follow others. To quote Fight Club, “Why is it that a weaker person must always latch themselves to a stronger person?”… Read more »

    quigonben
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    quigonben

    For those of the masses who are sick or in pain, should we not give them an opiate? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opiate. Not everyone is capable of seeking release from their pain in the ways some on this board claim to be.

    dieAntagonista
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    dieAntagonista

    @quigonben:
    Very interesting. But you know, alleviating your own pain is one thing, trying to force the rest to do the same, even if they don’t feel any pain – that’s another thing.

    And I’d also like to mention those very sick people who are in constant pain, they want to alleviate their pain too. Even if that means that they have to die. Which is often not possible because of the people you speak of, also known as pro-lifers. (I know, not everybody, just some)

    Theo11
    Member

    Fact: Religious posts receive a lot of comments.

    dieAntagonista
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    dieAntagonista

    True, but this one was more about politics.
    If there was no organised religion, life would be pretty dull. Not many outrageous things to talk about.

    Puulaahi
    Member

    @dieAntagonista: Pagan cults would be 10X more exciting than organized religion. Greeks and Romans religious festivals had to be a party. Especially the Dionysus one.

    Paul_Is_Drunk
    Member

    @quigonben: Are you saying legalize marijuana? Because I hear you telling me to legalize marijuana.

    Destro
    Member

    Politics and organized religion are both about control.
    @RSixdor
    I believe in social responsibility, and I’m not against socialist tenents, but I need to ultimately be in control of my productivity, not my government.
    If people were not historically proven to get greedy when given power, then communism would work just fine but someone has to account for the distribution of resources, so there has to be a limit to how much of my productivity they can allocate to whatever social/financial/militaristic endeavor that the party says is best for everyone.

    sylvanish
    Member

    Much that was called religion has carried an unconscious attitude of hostility toward life. True religion must teach that life is filled with joys pleasing to the eye of God, that knowledge without action is empty. All men must see that the teaching of religion by rules and rote is largely a hoax. The proper teaching is recognized with ease. You can know it without fail because it awakens within you that sensations which tells you this is something you’ve always known. } } Religion must remain an outlet for people who say to themselves, “I am not the kind… Read more »

    dieAntagonista
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    dieAntagonista

    @Puulaahi:
    I don’t know, are you sure? The bible is one of the most amazing books I have ever read. I wouldn’t want to live my life after its philosophy, but damn, there still needs a book to be written which is this awesome. There is a lot of interesting information about Pagan cults too, but I haven’t come across anything as specific as the bible (for example).
    If you know more than me, then go ahead and illuminate me.

    Puulaahi
    Member

    @dieAntagonista: I find Viking, Hawaiian, Native American…etc mythology more exciting. Definitely plan to read more.

    Had Bible class in Jr. High, really didn’t find the bible that interesting. A couple good stories in there though.

    In Ancient Greece, Dionysus festivals usually consisted of drinking wine w/out water. They drank it mixed with water back then, due to not so good water quality. Lot’s of prancing around naked and public sex.

    The Roman pagans had to be even more exciting.

    RSIxidor
    Member

    I’m greatly enjoying this thread. You guys are doing a great job of political discussion as opposed to retarded flaming. Good for you. +50 Internets for you all. @Paul_Is_Drunk: I absolutely agree, I was just attempting to show by example that a communist movement will lead to dictatorship regardless of its purest ideals. @Destro: Heck yeah. I like social programs, I like that we have some system of welfare in our country. When I have a problem is usually on two points: 1. They try to take more of my money than I feel they should be (I know many… Read more »

    RSIxidor
    Member

    @Puulaahi:

    Viking mythology is incredibly cool.

    Some of the craziest stuff I’ve read. I was once given a book that was separated into thirds (Roman/Greek/Norse and Germanic), I hardly remember any of the Roman and Greek parts.

    Skifter
    Member

    @dieAntagonista
    I’ll see your Bible and raise you Stranger in a Strange Land. (Not that I ever finished reading the Bible, I just skipped to the end to find out who did it.)

    dieAntagonista
    Guest
    dieAntagonista

    @Puulaahi: @Skifter: Ah yes, most people don’t find the bible as amazing as I do (not even Christians), and granted, it wasn’t until I have read various interpretations of the bible that I thought, it’s one of the most amazing stories ever written. I actually believe the bible is true. Not 100%, and Jesus certainly wasn’t the son of any god, but for instance, him healing all those people – it’s absolutely possible. Without any magic or anything. But that’s another story. The bible is a book that you can’t read just like any other book. It’s a challenge in… Read more »

    dieAntagonista
    Guest
    dieAntagonista

    @sylvanish:
    True, true and true.
    Especially this one is a winner: “Religion must remain an outlet for people who say to themselves, “I am not the kind of person I want to be.””

    the3g_ipwn
    Member

    If you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to your mountain, “MOVE!” and it WILL move… and NOTHING will be impossible for YOU!

    Obiwanbeeohbee
    Member
    Obiwanbeeohbee

    I’m sorry, but I believe it was Mao Tse Tung that said this, not Marx?”

    Puulaahi
    Member

    @dieAntagonista: I am reading Herodotus – The Histories right now for fun. It’s a tough read too. People back then certainly had an eloquence when writing.

    dieAntagonista
    Guest
    dieAntagonista

    @Puulaahi: Sounds good. Great now I won’t be satisfied until I have read it too.
    Yeah that’s why I love the people from back then.

    dusktime
    Member
    dusktime

    I lived in a Communist country for two years before it collapsed and then worked in and around two others for 18 years. A good summary quote seen for sale on the web somewhere:

    “Communism killed 100 million people and all I got was this t-shirt.”

    Puulaahi
    Member

    @dusktime: The t-shirt is probably made in China.

    Phyreblade
    Member

    @Paul_Is_Drunk: People misuse Ad Hominem?

    dusktime
    Member
    dusktime

    The most logical, sound Marxist quotes I’ve heard were probably Groucho’s.

    englishelectriclightning
    Member
    englishelectriclightning

    This quote is truly the only thing Marx was correct in asserting.And he certainly did not originate this thought.

    rattybad
    Member

    Pffft…Marx was a plagiarist. Voltaire said the same thing 100 years earlier.

    mrmilner
    Member

    *picks up first edition copy of “case for communism”* hell i could clean up this little argument but meh im enjoying the trolling too much
    oh and just for a little flame bait capitalism isnt all that briliant if america was communist this little resesion we are having would not have happened not letting the little people think sometimes has its advantage



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