Why carry a gun?

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    asdf
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    yes because shooting my loud obnoxious neighbors and their dog is a whole lot better

    Paul_Is_Drunk
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    1) Paranoid insecurity. “Everyone else in the world wants to kill & rape me, help!”

    2) Enforcing your opinion, right or wrong, is always easier with violence.

    3) If you rob a guy, and he has a gun, then you’re going to want one, too.

    4) Small penis.

    (Joking around… I’m willing to bet my aim is better than 95% of the people on this site).

    dieAntagonista
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    dieAntagonista

    Guns aren’t the root of any problem. People are.
    I think people who want to own a guy and carry it around for whatever reason, should have to go through a psychological evaluation at least once a year. If they would make a law like that, it would solve a bunch of problems with guns. I mean people.

    Phyreblade
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    @dieAntagonista: We as a culture, seem to have this nasty habit of trying to fix problems by applying symptom mitigation, rather resolving the core issues.

    Puulaahi
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    Because you might shoot someone not in self defense, not pass go and go directly to jail.

    dieAntagonista
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    dieAntagonista

    @Phyreblade: Absolutely.

    @dieAntagonista:
    ROFL. Sorry I’m a little tipsy. people who want to own a gun*

    Puulaahi
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    @dieAntagonista: What you drinking motherfucker?

    SumoSnipe
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    SumoSnipe

    @dieAntagonista: So is that why you are single, couldn’t get past the exam?(joking. I have apparently found where the rum has all gone)

    ian356094
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    @Puulaahi : And don’t forget, do not collect $200.

    dieAntagonista
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    dieAntagonista

    @Puulaahi: Cheap red wine. As a poor student it’s the only choice.

    @SumoSnipe:
    Tehee.. well I can’t deny it, I am quite possessive. And I guess those contracts I carry around, where I demand that new acquaintances have to sign with their blood that their souls belong to me now – seem probably a little daunting too.

    Puulaahi
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    @dieAntagonista: Poor college student here. Pity party not required.

    dieAntagonista
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    dieAntagonista

    @Puulaahi:
    Haha, pity party? Man, drinking cheap alcohol is like a culture of its own, a philosophy if you will.
    You take something that is linked to rich people, only of much worse quality but with the same effect.
    Distilled sugar, as I like to call it, is very dear to my heart. Right after zombies. See, another example. Zombies = cheap version of Jesus.
    Don’t get me wrong, expensive alcohol is excellent too, but I feel like the richest woman in the world when I drink cheap alcohol. It’s like stealing time.

    The Matrix: Rebooted
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    @dieAntagonista: Pro-tip, if you buy cheap vodka and run it through a charcoal water filter, it becomes high quality vodka. Also, brewing your own is a way to have great beer for the price of crap beer.

    dieAntagonista
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    dieAntagonista

    @reboot: What! If it is what I think it is, I actually have one. I’m going to try this out, it better not kill me or something. It’s almost like alchemy of some kind.
    Yeah I have a friend who brews his own beer, but it’s not for me. I’ve got a very weak stomach, 3 glasses of wine are enough and I’m as drunk as can be. 1 glass of beer on the other hand, is enough to just make me throw up.

    natedog
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    dusktime
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    dusktime

    My father was killed by a gun that he had bought for protection. ================================================= Self-Defense: The Great Myth of America’s Gun Industry www.consumerfed.org/pdfs/self_defense.pdf. Guns have long been seen as tools of self-defense in the United States. But, contrary to gun industry hype, unintended consequences often happen when people buy guns for self-defense. Studies by public health professionals have repeatedly found that having a gun around for any reason increases the likelihood that a family member—as opposed to a criminal—will be injured or killed with a gun. A 1997 American Journal of Public Health study showed that family members that had… Read more »

    toof
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    Yes…what natedog said!

    the3g_ipwn
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    @dusktime: Your father should have taken a saftey course. People who are shot by their own guns are idiots. Owning a firearm requires responsibility. You must become an expert in all matters concerning your firearm. Cleaning, loading/unloading, safe storage, ect. This should not only apply to the owner, but everyone in who could possibly come in contact with the firearm. As dieAntagonista said, guns aren’t the problem. People are. The moment that you lose respect for the fact that your firearm is a deadly weapon, is the moment in which accidents occour. One does not simply purchase a handgun, load… Read more »

    SumoSnipe
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    SumoSnipe

    @the3g_ipwn: Indeed.
    I do own several firearms. None of them were ever purchased for “self defense”. They are kept in a safe, behind a locked closet door.(I have too many smalls that visit to leave them out.)They are tools for the ranch. Now, if someone tried to break in? If you make it whole past the dogs and the piles of machinery waiting my attention, you will end up in a confined space with an angry shaved bear armed with a sledgehammer.

    dieAntagonista
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    dieAntagonista

    ^Best comment.

    dusktime
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    dusktime

    Thanks the3g_ipwn for calling my father an idiot when you know *nothing* about how it happened. *He* was an idiot?

    skndrbg
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    skndrbg

    Opening with the tragedy item was supposed to make whatever you wrote next unassailable … and boy did you ever write. Personally I skipped it all. Brevity is courtesy.

    Skifter
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    Sounds like SumoSnipe’s confined space is better than Tiki’s confined space…Come on Tiki, keep up with the Jones’!

    the3g_ipwn
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    @dusktime: Since you don’t feel compelled to elaborately disprove my statement, I shall explain the logic behind mine. 1. Suicide = Idiot(No expalnation necessary) 2. Getting shot with your own gun by a home intruder. = Idiot(That’s why you buy the bullets) 3. Accidentially shooting yourself while handling/cleaning your gun = Idiot(This is NOT what the bullets are for) 4. Getting shot by someone who was allowed to handle your firearm, for any reason, without proper training = Idiot(It is your responsibility to secure your firearm) I apoligize if I seem uncaring or insensitive to your tragic situation. That is… Read more »

    Proctojew
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    “US Department of Justice study found that, on the average, between 1987 and 1992 only one percent of actual or attempted victims of violent crime, or about 62,000 people, attempted to defend themselves with a firearm. On the other hand, criminals armed with handguns committed a record 931,000 violent crimes in 1992.” How is this supposed to be a legitimate comparison? All this is showing is that the victims of violent crime who have no control over what and when something happens didnt have a gun compared to the CRIMINALS who seek out to harm people that are able to… Read more »

    Luke Magnifico
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    @the3g_ipwn: If I were going to burgle or rape, and I knew I would probably going to get shot, I’d just kill everyone in the house with a knife first.

    Luke Magnifico
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    I have a sickness, don’t judge me for grammar.

    nyoki
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    Ok, guns don’t kill people, that requires a person to use the gun. That means that the only possible ways to deal w/ people shooting people is to control the people or control the gun. I’d rather the gov’t controlled the gun.

    the3g_ipwn
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    @nyokki: Do you really think that the person who is about to rape and shoot( or shoot then rape as luke prefers)you, really gives a shit weather or not the gun is legal?

    the3g_ipwn
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    The problem is the person. Some people place a lesser value on human life. Some are just batshit crazy. In either case, it is the people which need to be controled. Remember, murder pre-dates the firearm by well over 2000 years.

    nyoki
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    @the3g_ipwn: Of course the criminal w/ a gun doesn’t care if it’s legal. I’m not a proponent of banning guns. I was just pointing out our only 2 options. You simply can’t control people, it’s impossible. You can control weapons (to some extent). Absolutely e1 one owns a gun where I live, robbery is rare, murder isn’t. What’s your suggestion?

    the3g_ipwn
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    D.C. under a ban of ALL handguns became the murder capital of America. Gun control doesn’t work. I know it’s been beaten to death, but the cliche “If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns.” is simply fact. There should be tougher penalties for violent crimes. More use of capital punishment, as a deterrent. Used properly, the fear of death is a mighty form of persuasion. Lastly, gun ownership should be encouraged, not feared. Training courses should be supplied for anyone wishing to better defend themselves. Law enforcement can only do so much, and far too many times it… Read more »

    Phyreblade
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    @dusktime: I am sorry to hear about your father, however you, and many like you, seem to forget that a person has to be behind the trigger. No weapon can wield itself. Every time I read one of those things I’m reminded of an old quote: “He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts; for support, rather than illumination.” – Andrew Lang Your article comes to a lot of “truthy” conclusions based on highly flawed statistical interpretation. Even if the statistic are true, the conclusions are invalid. Not that there are no dangers to gun ownership, but the gun… Read more »

    sylvanish
    Member

    “Paranoids are not paranoid because they’re paranoid, but because they keep putting themselves, fucking idiots, deliberately into paranoid situations.”

    Phyreblade
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    @the3g_ipwn: OK I apologise for droning on, but I missed you and Nyokkis last post while I was typing my thesis… 🙂 I think the problem is we are focusing on the wrong things. The guns, in fact weapons in general, are only side issues. The real issue is people. We need to solve problems at a societal level. Yes, it’s a much bigger tougher problem, but if that isn’t worth the energy time and expense, then what is? We can either throw all our energies into improving that, or at stupid peripheral issues until the country goes to hell… Read more »

    the3g_ipwn
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    @Phyreblade: I agree with everything you said except your final point. America is the most abundant nation on Earth. The majority of criminals turn to violence out of lazieness rather than desparation. Choosing to rob rather than work. There is absolutely no excuse to kill another on the basis of survival in this country. If you’re starving, just walk into any supermarket and start fucking eating. Sure you may go to jail, but you will get out a hell of alot sooner. Mostly, people kill and steal for money, not food. To support drug habbits, not starving families.

    the3g_ipwn
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    It is not a set of laws that seperate criminals from the rest of us. Laws are in place to remind US who the criminals are. Desency separates us.

    Phyreblade
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    @the3g_ipwn: Money can go to food just as easily as to drugs, so without knowing the intentions of the one stealing or committing robbery you cannot make such sweeping statements about them. You cannot lump those who resort to crime in order to survive with those who are merely greedy, or supporting a drug habit. Not that I agree with either practice, but there is a big difference between the two. The ones who rob and steal absolutely do *not* want to go to jail. You talk about it as if it’s of no great consequence. But I assure you… Read more »

    the3g_ipwn
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    @Phyreblade: “Now you tell me. How many of these kids do you think will think twice about picking up a gun if they think it will help them get through a tough life easier? And more importantly, where did their ethics/morals/sense of decency go?” Right out the the school’s front door with prayer, religion, and corperal punishment. Say what you will about religion,that’s another thread, but most all faiths, at their core, teach these morals and values that are increasingly lacking. I agree with you on many counts. You understand the problem so well, yet offer so few solutions. During… Read more »

    the3g_ipwn
    Member

    @nyokki:
    @Phyreblade: I am thoroughly enjoying this healthy banter. Sadly, however, our thread will soon be relegated to page three. I will start a thread in the forum where we may more readily continue such a lively discussion. Care to join me?

    dusktime
    Member
    dusktime

    CHILDREN & GUNS: A LETHAL COMBINATION (June 2005) www.bradycampaign.org/facts/factsheets/pdf/children.pdf In 2002, the most recent year for which data is available, nearly eight young people aged 19 and under were killed a day by a firearm in the United States[1]. Nearly 36 per day were non-fatally wounded.[2] The scourge of gun violence frequently attacks the most helpless members of our society – our children. Consider these facts… • In 2002, 1,830 children and teenagers were murdered with guns, 828 committed suicide with guns, and 167 died in unintentional shootings. A total of 2,893 young people were killed by firearms in the… Read more »

    the3g_ipwn
    Member

    @dusktime: All you have done is prove my point. People who wish to bear arms should be more educated in firearm safety. All of your “facts” are results of idiots with guns.

    the3g_ipwn
    Member

    BTW, take it to the forum. No one is going back 4 pages for a tl;dr thread.

    SumoSnipe
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    SumoSnipe

    @dusktime: After checking your link for endnote #7, I have come to the conclusion that no one age 15-19 of any race or gender should be allowed in a vehicle. The stats you quote- even if you add accidents,homicides and suicides by firearm together-add up to just over half that of death by car accident alone. Hunt down the extra deaths from motorcycle, truck, van and suicide by vehicle, it drops under half.
    A tragedy shaped your outlook on firearms. That I understand. If you don’t like them, don’t own one.

    SumoSnipe
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    SumoSnipe

    @the3g_ipwn: Aww come on we still go back to the moldy bible thread…noob question:what does tl;dr mean?

    SumoSnipe
    Member
    SumoSnipe

    @Recondomoe: Ah. Thank you. Now I know.

    Luke Magnifico
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    @Phyreblade: Not if I were psychotic.

    The chances are high!

    Phyreblade
    Member

    @LukeV1-5: lol… Aaaaaaalrighty then!

    Snow
    Member

    i love how everyone just reads something on the internet and just copies it straight to the thread cause they want to sound intellegent rather than sound retarded because their own opinion doesnt seem to cut the mustard.



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