Comments on: Smash the State and masturbate

By: gor

gor — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:56:46 +0000

Caio, you look way to deep into some silly shit, don’t you?. Are you always talking like moron, or just here? I’m sure if you talked your pseudo-pyschological crap in real life like you do here, you really would find youself on the wrong end of some unpleasantness. Do you actually take yourself seriously? I mean, most people laugh at you, you are aware of that, aren’t you?

By: garbledxmission

garbledxmission — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:38:57 +0000

That being said, the sign in that picture is ridiculous. Just goes to show that humans can be morons no matter who they sleep with.

By: garbledxmission

garbledxmission — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:34:51 +0000

@Puulaahi. I don’t know what it was about you that rubbed me the wrong way initially, but one thing you never struck me as was prejudiced. That’s why the comments you made kind of caught me off guard. I’m glad it was more misconception than intentional. It’s also cool that you owned up to it. Most on the interwubs are not so willing to admit faults or change preconceptions. And since we are on the subject, I’ll turn my bile towards a more fitting recipient.
Luke, luke, luke…where do I begin? Your ignorance is only slightly eclipsed by your self delusion.
Your little statement about being fine with gays, then proceeding to trash them is equally telling about your actual opinions of homosexuals.
They “bitch” about being constantly persecuted by non-gays because they ARE constantly being persecuted. In a country which promises equality and freedom to all, there are laws openly denying them the same rights and freedoms you and I enjoy every day. In a culture that claims all are free to be themselves and should express themselves and their individuality openly, gays are belittle, taunted, assaulted and murdered for their very existance.
Those cliches and stereotypical behaviors within the gay lifestyle you complain about are no different than any other cultural behaviors that currently suffuse tv/movies/books/music, yet you claim that those specific behaviors are somehow less deserving of exposure because they are not hetero. Yes, during pride those are taken to the extreme in some cases, but no more than extremes displayed during other cultural events and venues.
The reason they protest, the reason they have parades is to show they are proud of who and what they are. Proud of their accomplishments. And that they aren’t satisfied to be second class citizens just because some scared, insecure, ignorant assholes think that just because something is different, then it’s wrong.
You might claim not to have a problem with gays, (and your statements above lay falsehood to your claim), but a large amount of the “society of a whole” you spoke of does.
I’d be willing to bet that you could take out the words “gay/homosexual” and “sexuality” and replace them with “random racial minority” and “race” from your above post and you wouldn’t have a problem with that statement either.

By: LukeV1-5

LukeV1-5 — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:30:52 +0000

I think we can all agree that garbledxmission is just a silly billy.

By: Puulaahi

Puulaahi — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:32:32 +0000

@outofocus: I honestly do not have much experience with the lesbian community, admit my ignorance on the subject and I even deserved a bit of your rage. So I am sorry I got hung up on the stereotypes and know better now. Most of my dealings are at work and at times the masculine female of the relationship gives me attitude for no reason and So perhaps my misunderstanding is because of this.Otherwise I am always respectful/nice/body language does not change. I treat everyone the same at work or anywhere. I have a gay uncle that I have a good relationship with and I treat him no different than any other human being. I have not seen him in a while because he lives in NY.I miss him. I have a mother and sister too that I love very much and treat with the highest respect. I also have many female friends that happen to be very outdoorsy. I am not a male chauvinist pig, thank you very much. In fact I like woman that enjoy the outdoors, motorcycles etc. Even prefer women smarter than myself.Unfortunately I am a wee bit too shy. I even do not fancy slutty women that only dress to impress. Shocking I know. So I am insulted that you painted me as such. Women should be treated with respect and dignity. Even worshiped to a degree. Sexual identity is a confusing subject especially when society still paints things one way, when it's indeed another. I am sorry if I insulted you. Sorry I can't be exceptional at everything. I do try though. You are lucky to be exceptional at everything. I was born with a learning disability that makes learning a huge challenge for me. I also have a horrible immune system that makes life a day to day struggle at times.Yet I am not hung up on it.I do enjoy learning though. In fact in Elementary School they said I would not be able to handle College, yet I have struggled and earned an AA.Now working on earning a BA degree.I am horrible at poetry too. California is a diverse place full of diverse cultures. Sorry if I rub you the wrong way too. I don't mean too. Half the time I am not fully serious and others I am the complete opposite, but serious in tone. So I understand your confusion. @Brevity Truta: Sexuality and gender are very confusing in this day in age(not that it wasn't in the past). I honestly do not treat masculine females any different from anyone else. I am sorry I came off that way. Bad choice of wording on my part and ill informed on the topic.Describing the sexes is not an easy task. @garbledxmission: I am shocked you have seen me as "fairly laid back and accepting." Coming from you that is a giant compliment. Especially when all you seem to have is bile toward me.I admit my wrong doing and will choose my language more wisely next time and inform myself more on the subject.

By: LukeV1-5

LukeV1-5 — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:02:20 +0000

:facepalm:

Sorry, I left for a while and forgot what I was writing.

By: LukeV1-5

LukeV1-5 — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:00:03 +0000

@garbledxmission: You are fucktarded.

I’m fine with gays.

I accept them entirely.

What I don’t like is how the vast majority of the homosexual society bitch about how they’re constantly persecuted by non gays. Maybe society as a whole would be more welcoming of them if they just cut it out with the cliches, the stereotypes and the obnoxious parades. Maybe if they stopped acting like how their sexuality meant that every aspect of their lives had to be governed by their sexuality.

I don’t mind gay people.

I mind gay people who simply persist in reinforcing the gay steretoype.

By: Finn

Finn — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:36:21 +0000

@Belbo: Anarchy can also work in communes/co-ops where not respecting people gets you kicked out, not killed. The anarchist groups I've been with (or tangential to) used the consensus model to organize without hierarchy.

By: garbledxmission

garbledxmission — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:07:32 +0000

@LukeV1-5, straights already have a parade. It happens EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR. I’m sure you like all your gays tucked away safe in their closets where they can’t hurt your small minded little existance. They are entitled to the same rights as every other citizen. If you don’t like it, go to some totalitarian state where they are executed. I’m sure you’ll fit right in.
Fucking narrow minded assholes piss me off.

@Puulaahi. I know we don’t get along, but I expected better of you. You’ve shown a very biased facet of someone who normally comes across as being fairly laid back and accepting.

@outofocus. Great rebuttal. I believe you and my girlfriend would get along pretty well.

@Brevy Brev Brev. Good points as well. That’s the problem, isn’t it? People feeling bound to stay within certain narrow stereotypes and as a result, ending up very unhappy for most of their lives. Guess that’s why so many have parades/protests/etc. But then, I guess some on this site feel that we are all soooo equal already that others shouldn’t stand up for the rights they should already be entitled to by law.

By: Brevity Truta

Brevity Truta — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:31:52 +0000

That was a good read, outofocus. I agree that people do pick up on body language, so maybe Puulaahi should try being extra nice to the next ‘butch’ that comes in, break the vicious cycle.

‘Masculine’ lesbians aren’t attempting to be male, Puulaahi, not in the sense of wanting a penis. And lesbians do not like the cock, that’s the whole point, they really don’t.

I think the whole “I kissed a girl and I liked it” porn thing is a pandering to that ego thing in men that wants to believe that no woman could really prefer pussy over cock, not when a man buts in on the action. Straight girls have been known to play on that (which pisses real lesbians off no end), and then there’s bisexuals, who really throw a curveball into the mix.

As outofocus said, it’s a wiring thing. The trouble is that sexist stereotypes are based in real gender differences (that probably aren’t that huge and also that occur along a spectrum – don’t we all know a really nurturing yet traditional older 70+ man, and a really aggressive traditional older 70+ woman?) that have been warped and made into rigid straitjackets for both sexes, so there aren’t good ways to describe people who don’t ‘fit’ the still narrow frames of reference without resorting to confusing language like ‘butch’ and ‘masculine’, or ‘feminine’, words that conjure some truth, but a lot of lies.

Interesting reason for the vote, guess it works!