Flagellum

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I wonder what a Type III secretion system is.

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Flagellum

A flagellum is a long, slender projection from the cell body, whose function is to propel an organism. The depicted type is found in bacteria such as E. coli and Salmonella, and rotates like a propeller when the bacterium swims.



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    diabeetus

    First!

    MrPsychic

    I swear to all different deities diabeetus… I’m going to find you, kill you, revive you, lock you in a house, burn the house down, revive you again, then throw you into a frozen lake.

    Brevity Truta

    Make sure you submit the pics to mcs!

    It’s a nice diagram; all engineered-looking-like. A sperm would be another example, right?

    Bicoid

    Puts his PhD cap in Microbio on: A type three secretion system is a way for bacteria to inject small proteins and other molecules into a eukaryotic host cell (think of all the cell membranes that have to be crossed). These small molecules then disrupt the normal workings of the host cell, causing membrane ruffling, phagocytosis, cell death, or a number of other phenotypes.

    Basically, think of it as a molecular syringe, and this structure, with many of its subunits, has been adapted for use as a flagella.

    Bicoid

    As for the sperm’s flagella and bacteria flagella, they’re similar in function, but not molecular makeup. Kind of like how birds and bats both have wings, but they come from different evolutionary pathways.

    diabeetus

    Bicoid: So I take it you believe in Creationism?

    Bicoid

    And if you want to see what one of Salmonella’s Type Three Secretion system does to the cell, look for the Salmonella movie at this site: cmgm.stanford.edu/theriot/movies.htm#Hits

    Bicoid

    Nope, not at all diabeetus. I do molecular research on bacteria and there’s no need for that hypothesis. As a bumpersticker says: Don’t Believe in Evolution? Ask your Doctor about MRSA”

    diabeetus

    www.conservapedia.com/MRSA

    So the MRSA is the new gay plague? What does that have anything to do with evolution?

    Caio

    I agree bat wings are fucked up.

    Caio

    oh oh oh Rex Morgan. “HOW ARE YOU GOING TO KILL IT?”

    vanvelding

    No, MRSA is an antibiotic-resistant strain of staph. It spread because we were killing off all of the non-resistant strains.

    diabeetus

    Natural selection is often thought of as being synonymous with evolution, although they are distinct concepts, and creationists accept that natural selection is a real, observed, process.

    www.conservapedia.com/Natural_selection

    diabeetus

    Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia founded by entrepreneur and atheist Jimmy Wales and philosophy professor Larry Sanger on January 15, 2001. Despite its official “neutrality policy”, Wikipedia has a strong liberal bias. It has millions of entries on topics ranging from an explanation for “duh” to singles by obscure rock bands to arcane British nobility.

    www.conservapedia.com/Wikipedia

    Caio

    Wiki war? Holy crap, libertarian schizo nerd manifesto vs. conservative schizo nerd manifesto?

    Jesus Mary motherfucker the Internet just gets worse and worse.

    diabeetus

    In a time of universal deceit – telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

    – George Orwell

    Support the anti-Wikipedia movement.

    www.wikipedia-watch.org/
    andrewkeen.typepad.com/
    nowikipedia.com/

    Caio

    Diabeetus, if it were up to me I would have Wikipedia burnt and have the ashes scattered to the four corners of the fucking earth.

    But seriously don’t pretend that it’s any better than Geocities or Conservapedia. Or that there’s any point protesting it. Even wikipedia knows how stupid wikipedia is:

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_failing

    Anyone who takes wikipedia seriously is already a fucking retard and no amount of destroying wikipedia will change that. The internet is a steaming turdhole and will always be a steaming turdhole.

    Caio

    I’ll concede that wikipedia is useful for two things:

    1) Births and deaths. They always seem to get those right except for early modern British Julian Calendar but they’re getting better. Also dates of battles are always right. However, if it’s for something important I’ll still go with oxford reference to check those dates.

    2) Who directed that movie? Who produced that album? Again, with fanboy stuff wikipedia is always right. So long as you don’t want to hear, I don’t know, a critical opinion.

    And yes Wikipedia commons has some awesome pictures.

    But aside from that it’s crap. They should focus on more specific projects like ‘wiki cook books’ and ‘wiktionary’ which are easier to mod. Wikipedia should be disbanded and replaced with ‘wiki chronology’ and ‘who was that dude in that movie Wiki’.

    natedog

    BIOLOGICAL MACHINES

    my biggest problem with evolutionists is that they think people are batshit crazy for seeing something like this and attributing it to a creator.

    they make it seem like it’s totally irrational to believe an intelligence is behind the existence of Life.

    clearly, this is faggotry.

    Caio

    Not really man. In Canada (or at least Alberta) we learn about how that works in grade 12 biology, along with every other mind-numbing fact about cell-level chemistry you could imagine. It seems a lot more mundane if you understand the chemical reactions behind it.

    I could see an intelligence in the creation of Galaxies and Nebulae and time and space and the universe as a whole, but then again those things are outside of my mesoworld and I don’t know much of the scholarship. Maybe if I did it wouldn’t impress me as much.

    vanvelding

    Free online databases edited by the general public may be fine for general knowledge, but they’re certainly not material you would cite as a definitive source. I think the links in this thread bears that out.

    As a source of easy-to-find facts from a safe website for irrelevant conversation, there is really no substitute.

    vanvelding

    “Links in this thread bear that out.”

    Verb tense. Always proofread.

    Bicoid

    Conservapedia? That’s the best you could pull out as a counter-argument? Holy crud, that’s weak.

    Try quoting something from a science journal, and then we’ll talk. Otherwise, you’ve got nothing.

    blackdog33

    GOD will get ALL you guys. After he gets through evolving cancer into something totally untreatable. And resurrecting a polio epidemic. And creating more Republicans.

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