Comments on: The Future of Light http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2008/07/20/the-future-of-light/ My Confined Space is an image blog with user submitted pictures of anything and everything, funny, serious or dark. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 23:54:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: gor http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2008/07/20/the-future-of-light/comment-page-1/#comment-122778 gor Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:48:33 +0000 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2008/07/20/the-future-of-light/#comment-122778 Reboot, on the Chesapeake the bald-eagle and osprey (which I meant instead of peregrin) populations are booming and yet we've had a very high concentration of coal, oil & nuclear power plants around here for years. Also, our fox, beaver and deer populations are going through the roof. In western Maryland, they have deforested whole mountains to put up wind turbines that actually produce a pitiful amount of power and has decimated the bat populations, which is showing up in growing number of mosquitoes. I think there is a place of wind turbines in a balanced energy approach, they just need to be smart where they put them. Reboot, on the Chesapeake the bald-eagle and osprey (which I meant instead of peregrin) populations are booming and yet we’ve had a very high concentration of coal, oil & nuclear power plants around here for years. Also, our fox, beaver and deer populations are going through the roof.

In western Maryland, they have deforested whole mountains to put up wind turbines that actually produce a pitiful amount of power and has decimated the bat populations, which is showing up in growing number of mosquitoes.

I think there is a place of wind turbines in a balanced energy approach, they just need to be smart where they put them.

]]> By: FlyingMantisShrimp http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2008/07/20/the-future-of-light/comment-page-1/#comment-122719 FlyingMantisShrimp Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:20:09 +0000 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2008/07/20/the-future-of-light/#comment-122719 Very recent article I found thanks to Gizmodo that talks about the subject: http://news.uns.purdue.edu/x/2008b/080717SandsLighting.html Very recent article I found thanks to Gizmodo that talks about the subject:

news.uns.purdue.edu/x/2008b/080717SandsLighting.html

]]> By: reboot http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2008/07/20/the-future-of-light/comment-page-1/#comment-122649 reboot Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:31:35 +0000 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2008/07/20/the-future-of-light/#comment-122649 @jascas_ Just a point of order: the bulbs in your first link are <i>directional</i> LED bulbs. Which is ok for flashlights, reading lights, etc. but not a replacement for general lighting. The most powerful bulbs on that list are only a couple hundred lumens. An incandescent bulb is 1500-2000 lumens. @jascas_
Just a point of order: the bulbs in your first link are directional LED bulbs. Which is ok for flashlights, reading lights, etc. but not a replacement for general lighting. The most powerful bulbs on that list are only a couple hundred lumens. An incandescent bulb is 1500-2000 lumens.

]]> By: jascas_ http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2008/07/20/the-future-of-light/comment-page-1/#comment-122648 jascas_ Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:11:32 +0000 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2008/07/20/the-future-of-light/#comment-122648 Sorry reboot, but you evidently buy your LED bulbs at the wrong damn place, dood. Just as a quick comparison (not a thorough low-price search), the bulbs here: http://www.ccrane.com/lights/led-light-bulbs/index.aspx are <i>considerably</i> less than $100 (max $30, depending on what you're looking for). I didn't feel the need to post backup for my claim, since what I was talking about is a presumption for the future, not something that can immediately be proven true or false. In the off-chance you weren't referring to the cost of the actual bulb, but were actually talking about the cost to operate the bulbs, I'll present this article, posted just days ago, that shows that LED lights, as they are now, cost just a few percent more dollars to operate per year than CFLs: http://cmpaulus.com/blog/other/archive/2008/07/05/led-vs-compact-fluorescent--bulbs-go-with-cfl-for.aspx I do agree, though, that in the immediate, switching to CF bulbs does make sense, with a need to re-evaluate when LEDs become cheaper to purchase. The aforementioned article mirrors mine and your opinion. My 10 year number, btw, came from the presumption that a good number of people that switch bulbs now (and the 2-3 years either direction of the present) to CFL, will again be switching within a decade, since that's when CFLs might be burning out en mass and LEDs will likely be more price-efficient. Just a guess though. Sorry reboot, but you evidently buy your LED bulbs at the wrong damn place, dood. Just as a quick comparison (not a thorough low-price search), the bulbs here: www.ccrane.com/lights/led-light-bulbs/index.aspx are considerably less than $100 (max $30, depending on what you’re looking for). I didn’t feel the need to post backup for my claim, since what I was talking about is a presumption for the future, not something that can immediately be proven true or false.

In the off-chance you weren’t referring to the cost of the actual bulb, but were actually talking about the cost to operate the bulbs, I’ll present this article, posted just days ago, that shows that LED lights, as they are now, cost just a few percent more dollars to operate per year than CFLs: cmpaulus.com/blog/other/archive/2008/07/05/led-vs-compact-fluorescent–bulbs-go-with-cfl-for.aspx

I do agree, though, that in the immediate, switching to CF bulbs does make sense, with a need to re-evaluate when LEDs become cheaper to purchase. The aforementioned article mirrors mine and your opinion.

My 10 year number, btw, came from the presumption that a good number of people that switch bulbs now (and the 2-3 years either direction of the present) to CFL, will again be switching within a decade, since that’s when CFLs might be burning out en mass and LEDs will likely be more price-efficient. Just a guess though.

]]> By: chris_hates_freedom http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2008/07/20/the-future-of-light/comment-page-1/#comment-122637 chris_hates_freedom Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:25:01 +0000 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2008/07/20/the-future-of-light/#comment-122637 think of all the time you'll have to listen to your cure & my chemical romance albums. think of all the time you’ll have to listen to your cure & my chemical romance albums.

]]> By: Caio http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2008/07/20/the-future-of-light/comment-page-1/#comment-122635 Caio Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:19:25 +0000 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2008/07/20/the-future-of-light/#comment-122635 "The first ten million years were the worst, and the second ten million years, they were the worst too. The third ten million I didn't enjoy at all. After that I went into a bit of a decline." “The first ten million years were the worst, and the second ten million years, they were the worst too. The third ten million I didn’t enjoy at all. After that I went into a bit of a decline.”

]]> By: chris_hates_freedom http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2008/07/20/the-future-of-light/comment-page-1/#comment-122634 chris_hates_freedom Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:19:17 +0000 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2008/07/20/the-future-of-light/#comment-122634 glad to help, caio. you're the tops in my book! glad to help, caio. you’re the tops in my book!

]]> By: Caio http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2008/07/20/the-future-of-light/comment-page-1/#comment-122632 Caio Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:09:40 +0000 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2008/07/20/the-future-of-light/#comment-122632 Don't be a fucking emo, chris. Oh, yeah, but I'm totally bummed out that if I manage to live for millions and millions of years eventually gravity will get me. bawwwwwwww *cutcutcut* Don’t be a fucking emo, chris.

Oh, yeah, but I’m totally bummed out that if I manage to live for millions and millions of years eventually gravity will get me. bawwwwwwww *cutcutcut*

]]> By: reboot http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2008/07/20/the-future-of-light/comment-page-1/#comment-122628 reboot Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:49:51 +0000 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2008/07/20/the-future-of-light/#comment-122628 @jascas_ Why? It's not like you posted a link to someone of authority to back up your "10 year" claim, which I think is over-the-top. Right now an LED light with comparable output of a CF costs about $100 compared to about $5. That seems like a pretty substantial margin, especially since CFs will also drop in cost. Besides, even if LED lights do become affordable in ten years, it still makes sense to switch to CF rights now. @jascas_
Why? It’s not like you posted a link to someone of authority to back up your “10 year” claim, which I think is over-the-top.
Right now an LED light with comparable output of a CF costs about $100 compared to about $5. That seems like a pretty substantial margin, especially since CFs will also drop in cost.
Besides, even if LED lights do become affordable in ten years, it still makes sense to switch to CF rights now.

]]> By: chris_hates_freedom http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2008/07/20/the-future-of-light/comment-page-1/#comment-122623 chris_hates_freedom Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:31:56 +0000 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2008/07/20/the-future-of-light/#comment-122623 The future of light is darkness, as the universe eventually succumbs to heat death. Have a nice day! :) The future of light is darkness, as the universe eventually succumbs to heat death. Have a nice day! :)

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