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    thecowsays

    When the intruder breaks into the kitchen and steps on her bare feet, he’s in for a world o’ hurt.
    Good weapons discipline as well, keeping her finger out of the trigger well. Good for a chick at least…

    gudis

    This is by Oleg Volk, of www.a-human-right.com

    Nimbo

    Its an Oleg Volk photo.
    Of course the woman knows propper trigger discipline.
    Also knows that in the third trimester pregnant women should not shoot unsuppressed weapons as the kids ears are developed, and can cause hearing damage.

    unknown

    The problem that most gun advocates seem to forget is that most people on this planet are idiots and that you don’t want to give guns to idiots.

    We absolutely need tougher gun control laws so that we can keep guns and idiots away from each other.

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    We now have a ban or guns and ranges in Toronto or some such shit.

    Everyone is laughing at the mayor cause its such a joke.

    Criminally active people shoot guns procured illegally and innocent people get hurt in the crossfire so his answer is to punish the innocent people further by restricting their already limited rights.

    I’ve never hard of a law passed that I was happy about.

    joeyisapest

    criminally insane people will always find a way to hurt people. guns or no guns.

    and
    “gudis on May 29th, 2008 8:57 am

    This is by Oleg Volk, of www.a-human-right.com

    —-
    that survey is sooo one sided

    Alpha Harrison

    While I wish I could procure awesome-based weaponry in the U.K, I’m also happy that I don’t live in a country where anyone is retarded enough to give away free handguns with every purchase of a car. And wasn’t there a bank in like, Columbine or somewhere that gave guns away (ranging to rifles and shotguns I do believe) depending on how big an account you opened? Srlsy, youse guys iz fucked. But to be fair I think i saw that in a Michael Moore film so the source is a little shaky at best

    MacheteJak

    A little? Whether or not you like/agree with Micheal Moore, you have to admit he’s nothing but a rabble-rouser.

    wookie_x

    Alpha Harrison:

    There was recently a car dealership here in the US that would give away either $250 in fuel OR a semiautomatic pistol. The vast majority of people buying cars preferred the pistol to the fuel.

    www.kmbc.com/news/16345443/detail.html

    natedog

    nimbo
    that chick is not in the third trimester imo.
    also, LOOK AT THE FUCKING SILENCER

    unknown
    idiots have a right to bear arms too; i’d rather have a gun to protect myself from teh idiots with guns. GUN LAWS NEVER KEPT AN IDIOT AWAY FROM A GUN

    /cruise control

    unknown

    natedog : Nope. If it is difficult to get a gun then a regular idiot will not get a gun because his lack of intellect prevents him. If it is easy to get a gun then a regular idiot will get a gun only because the next idiot has one too. Just examine the message you posted above.

    Idiots do NOT have the right to bear arms. Why? Because it is not the gun that kills people.

    natedog

    Unknown, surely you jest

    American idiots ARE in fact, entitled under the 2nd Amendment the right to keep and bear arms. or did i miss the Idiot Clause?

    also, idiots throughout history have gotten themselves many a gun.

    pussies with gun phobias are the cancer that is killing the 2nd amendment

    DasMaus

    Right on target natedog.

    The world is full of idiots and it doesn’t matter if they have guns, knives, baseball bats, cars, dogs, rocks, bad breath or whatever other item fear-mongers want to ban or control.

    Unknown, maybe in your blue sky utopia all idiots would be screened out at birth and killed but it sounds like you need to grow a pair and face reality

    st_judas

    P229R?

    Dreth

    Shouldn’t a person with a brain have that gun? Logic would have its way and have the same person point it at the ugly pregnant bitch.

    ManTheHarpoons

    Nate Dog

    Good man Good man

    The Lawnmower

    Waaaah! I want my penis extension!

    unknown

    The common argument that gun advocates give is that everyone should have a gun because criminals have guns. Where do criminals get the guns? They aren’t legal guns, because if they were legal then we could solve the problem by preventing criminals from getting legal guns. Therefore we must assume that criminals use illegal guns.

    Where do illegal guns come from? There are no factories that produce illegal guns. If there were the problem would be solved by closing the illegal gun factories. Therefore we must assume that legal guns are somehow converted to illegal guns. This conversion happens, for example, when a legal gun gets stolen or is lost.

    With the above in mind, we can assume that the more there are legal guns around the more legal guns are converted to illegal guns for criminals to use. So, in order to reduce the number of illegal guns one must reduce the amount of legal guns.

    Think about it for a second. Think free capitalism. The more illegal guns there are the cheaper they will be for the criminal to buy. When guns are cheap even petty criminals can get them. If guns were scarce, then only hard criminals would have them. Hard criminals, such as drug dealers and organized crime, seldom interact with law abiding citizens because they get their income from lesser criminals. When guns are cheap even the drug addict that comes to steal your DVD player will have a gun. This is a prime example of a snowball effect. When you buy a gun you make it easier for a petty thief to get a gun because the gun manufacturer can manufacture and sell the guns cheaper (mass production).

    How do you argue with that?

    Kendo_Bunny

    So the strung out druggie who comes to rob my house has a gun- and I have a gun. I’m an excellent shot- good enough to stake my life on it.

    The gun is the great equalizer. If it comes down to a gunfight, it comes down to who is a better shot. I can’t fight a full-grown man, but I’d bet my life that I can outshoot one.

    AbNo

    Wait, Unknown, first you say the problem is, and I quote, “legal guns are somehow converted to illegal guns.”

    Then you suggest that we put more restrictions on guns, i.e., make more (all?) guns illegal.

    This produces more illegal guns, which, by your own reasoning and “logic” produces more illegals guns, which are used by criminals to commit crimes.

    Why are you advocating the creation of MORE illegal guns, since, as you put it, that’s what criminals use.

    Then again, I guess we should stop producing cars too, since stealing a car makes it illegal, too.

    Second, you go on to say that affordable guns are a good thing. I guess this means that only the wealthy have the right to self defense.

    It must be nice to be rich. Can I lick that caviar can when you’re done with it?

    natedog

    The common argument that knife/rope/hammer/madninjaskills, etc. advocates give is that everyone should have a knife/rope/hammer/madninjaskills, etc. because criminals have knife/rope/hammer/madninjaskills, etc. Where do criminals get the knife/rope/hammer/madninjaskills, etc.? They aren’t legal knife/rope/hammer/madninjaskills, etc., because if they were legal then we could solve the problem by preventing criminals from getting legal knife/rope/hammer/madninjaskills, etc. Therefore we must assume that criminals use illegal knife/rope/hammer/madninjaskills, etc.

    Where do illegal knife/rope/hammer/madninjaskills, etc. come from? There are no factories that produce illegal knife/rope/hammer/madninjaskills, etc. If there were the problem would be solved by closing the illegal factories. Therefore we must assume that legal knife/rope/hammer/madninjaskills, etc. are somehow converted to illegal knife/rope/hammer/madninjaskills, etc.. This conversion happens, for example, when a legal knife/rope/hammer/madninjaskills, etc. gets stolen or is lost.

    With the above in mind, we can assume that the more there are legal knife/rope/hammer/madninjaskills, etc. around the more legal knife/rope/hammer/madninjaskills, etc. are converted to illegal knife/rope/hammer/madninjaskills, etc. for criminals to use. So, in order to reduce the number of illegal knife/rope/hammer/madninjaskills, etc. one must reduce the amount of legal knife/rope/hammer/madninjaskills, etc..

    Think about it for a second. Think free capitalism. The more illegal knife/rope/hammer/madninjaskills, etc. there are the cheaper they will be for the criminal to buy. When knife/rope/hammer/madninjaskills, etc. are cheap even petty criminals can get them. If knife/rope/hammer/madninjaskills, etc. were scarce, then only hard criminals would have them. Hard criminals, such as drug dealers and organized crime, seldom interact with law abiding citizens because they get their income from lesser criminals.
    When knife/rope/hammer/madninjaskills, etc. are cheap even the drug addict that comes to steal your DVD player will have a knife/rope/hammer/madninjaskills, etc.. This is a prime example of a snowball effect. When you buy a gun you make it easier for a petty thief to get a gun because the gun manufacturer can manufacture and sell the knife/rope/hammer/madninjaskills, etc. cheaper (mass production).

    natedog

    also, my argument had nothing to do with criminals having guns. my argument is simple. only 27 words:

    A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

    natedog

    piss.

    The Lawnmower

    > This produces more illegal guns, which, by your
    > own reasoning and “logic” produces more illegals
    > guns, which are used by criminals to commit crimes
    >
    > Why are you advocating the creation of MORE
    > illegal guns, since, as you put it, that’s what
    > criminals use. ”

    While semantically true, this isn’t a valid point.

    We can assume by ‘illegal’ he meant guns used in the commission of a crime, or ‘illegal under current law’.

    Nor did he say that the way to reduce legal guns was by banning them.

    As for natedog, you’re guilty of the continuum fallacy, not to mention appeal to authority.

    Queensly

    Mom, Dad, STOP FIGHTING!

    natedog

    the fuck you say?

    im’a chargin mah lazah

    unknown

    kendo_bunny : Do you actually like the situation where the strung out druggie has a gun or not? You see, where I live, gun control is tight and thus the petty thieves do not have guns and thus a normal person does not need to own a gun.

    AbNo : Way to go failing to understand all the points I made. The point I make is that if there were less legal guns there would be less illegal guns and people would not have to buy guns for self defence. Guns would be expensive but neither rich or poor people would need guns for self defence. Guns should not be a commodity for the reasons I told in the previous post.

    natedog : Why do you keep bringing up the second amendment? It’s not the bucking bible. It can (and in my opinion should) be changed. You also fail to understand that a gun is an “instakill” weapon even in untrained hands while a knife in untrained hands is not. It is easier to shoot someone because you know the victim will not stand up to fight after the first shot. Carrying a gun doesn’t mean you don’t get shot. The person who will shoot you will always have the advantage of surprise. You will not have time to draw your weapon before you get killed (and the bad guys will then have one more illegal handgun thanks to you carrying one).

    Tougher gun control means less legal guns which means less illegal guns which means increased safety.

    I am Nate

    That is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard.

    As a gun owner I will tell you that I’m not about to lay down my guns and make myself more vulnerable just to make guns more expensive for the people who would use them for bad. I don’t care if the person that broke into my house has a gun or not, he better not pick the wrong bedroom door. The only thing you have a right to in this world imo are the things you worked to get and I’ll be darned if he gets his hands on my stuff and I let him walk out of there.

    natedog

    Why do i keep bringing up the 2nd Amendment?

    fuck, man. it’s the best gun control law. also, i revere and respect the Constitution of my once great country. and if you want to amend it to get rid of the 2nd Amendment, DO IT FAGGOT. that’s what is so kick ass about it; the Constitution is a living document that is meant to be changed when We The Sheeple deem necessary.

    until then, GTFO my holster

    and it’s purpose is to protect the citizen

    natedog

    also unknown, it’s not about having a gun. it’s about having the RIGHT to own a gun.

    i dont own a gun. i did serve in the army in the mid 90’s and i qualified expert in BRM from the get fucking go. the reason i dont own a gun is because i have small children in my home. i’m sure i will purchase one or two once the smallest is in his teens.

    at least i hope to be able to purchase a handgun in 10 years, unless fuckers like you fuck it up for the non-idiots in America who can handle a firearm without shooting up a mall, school, or bingo hall.

    and if guns are ever made illegal, i will go find some illegal ones to protect myself from the shitstorm to come.

    the point is, i CHOOSE not to own a gun because that is my RIGHT to do so.

    Recondomoe

    Excuse me for stepping in, but Unknown, starting with post #4. The number one thing that needs to be done is get out and vote and get the liberal bastards out of office that do not enforce the very strict gun laws that are already on record. Until then, passing more laws is not going to solve the problem.

    I have always had a weapon handy whileliving in a rural area. The local law enforcement cannot protect you when it takes 15-30 minutes to arrive. Luckily we have passed a conceal carry law.

    Recondomoe

    BTW cars should be made illegal as cars are used to kill people. Less cars would make less illegal cars.

    Kendo_Bunny

    Unknown: If I don’t have a gun, that strung-out druggie can beat me and rape me if he wants. I’m a big, strong woman who lifts weights and I can’t wrestle to win against a man with damaged joints who isn’t even half trying. That’s wrestling for fun- if he wanted to hurt me seriously, it wouldn’t be too difficult for him.

    My best friend is 5 inches shorter and 100 lbs. lighter than me, and doesn’t do any exercise more strenuous than bike-riding. Why should she have to attempt to fight off an average man, who’s 7 inches taller and 110 lbs. heavier? If someone decides to make trouble for her, it’s her right to blow him away.

    The average woman does need a strong weapon for self-defense.

    tiki god

    Shit, I’m 6’6″ and 300 pounds, and I would much rather have a gun in my house in case of druggie invasion.

    back when I lived in tampa, I remember reading a story about the the mayor’s house being broken into in the middle of the night by a guy high on draino looking for some more cleaning products. My googlefu is weak tonight though, so I can’t find a link to confirm my alcohol riddled mind, but I seem to remember there being a weapon that saved the mayor’s life.

    Cause draino druggies are so hopped up on their draino juice that you just can’t defend yourself from them. Think “kimo slice” but cleaner.

    tiki god

    also, funniest comment thus far :

    “where I live, gun control is tight and thus the petty thieves do not have guns and thus a normal person does not need to own a gun.”

    I could give a shit about some dude that’s steal for petty reasons. I DO give a shit about the guy with a baseball bat that wants my truck. I’d rather shoot someone then take a baseball bat to the head.

    Phyreblade

    Indeed. I would tend to agree…

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