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9 and 10 are both pretty good.
What does it matter? Other than #2, which is simply used as a red herring by the right, and #3, which is pretty much irrelevant, none of them apply anymore.
“Quick, which one is most important to you?”
Why choose one when you can have them all?
Well… maybe not under the current administration…
4 & 10
1 & 2
The first one gives us the right to voice our objections, the second allows us to enforce our objections.
X; without a doubt
deuce; III was used very recently….
Quick, which one has the word ‘privacy’ in it? or abortion, or health care, or anything else those liberal idiots bitch about?
What’s wrong with privacy and healthcare?
Definitely the one that entitles you do carry bear arms with you.
@TGGeko
The right to privacy and right to abortion are part of the 9th amendment.
I like 2.
1,2,4,5,6,9, & 10.
@TGGeko
Okay, smartass. Find me the word “torture.”
Better yet, find me any passage in the whole Constitution that says the President can do whatever he wants.
I’m with reboot – #9 protects the people and #10 limits the federal government.
As far as #2 – if you’re a member of the militia, then you get to keep and bear arms. Military and national guard, and I guess this is also cops. This was the amendment written in to allow the Revolutionary War soldiers to take their military issue firearms home with them so they could rejoin the army easily if the British returned amd defend the country.
@Eric:
No, you read it wrong. #2 is about the peoples’ right to protect themselves. It is about the people being able to regulate a militia well.
Well over 200 years old and it’s still TRYING to serve us well.
Here’s an interesting analogy about the 2nd amendment that I heard recently:
What if it said,”A well educated Faculty, being necessary for the education of a Free State, the right of the people to keep and read Books, shall not be infringed”? Would that mean that only professors could own books?
@RenegadeRick – Actually, I wasn’t reading the amendment. I was reading the letters written at the time discussing the need for the amendment. Those expositions defending the amendment mostly were concerned with the need to have weapons in every hamlet and village, because it would take too long to reconstitue the military if everyone had to go to the state armory and then back to the front lines in event of war.
@reboot – Nope. It wouldn’t mean only professors could own books, as written. Nor would it forbid a law prohibiting citizens from owning books, as written. The amendment can be read to apply only to faculty, or it could be read to apply to everyone, requiring the Supreme Court to interprete it because it is unclear.
Similarly, the second amendment either applies only to militia members (as it was debated at the time) or it applies to everyone (as has been pushed more recently).
There are apperently limits on the amendment, as I, as a private citizen, am forbidden to own a weapon of mass destruction. When I was young, I could bring a pocket knife to school, but students can’t now, even though students are basically ‘people’.
America, the Land of the Lost and the Damned. Freedoms? Rights? What are these things of which you speak? America, good old U.S.A, has turned into a friggin police state! Good one G.W.B and you filthy Republican fat cats.
America, and the Bill of Rights, were once noble and great but are now diseased and decaying from the inside out.
I miss the 1st Amendment.
@ pauld
Torture is specifically forbidden in Article 8. And being held without charges is forbidden in Article 5. Although the Constitution and its Amendments apply to the citizenry of the US, to deny foreigners under arrest by US forces the same rights we have is hypocritical. Either kill them in war, or let them go if you don’t have any charges. Kidnapping and torturing people you think might have a tie to a suspected organization is insane.
@ TGGeko
Privacy is implied in the 4th and 5th Amendments. At least, that’s what the SCOTUS ruled on. Not being subjected to unwarranted searches and seizures and not testifying against oneself are hallmarks of our privacy. In Row vs. Wade, abortion was classified as a matter of privacy under the 14th amendment.
I guess one could argue that healthcare could be in the Preamble of the US Constitution, under “promote the general Welfare”, but that is probably a stretch. Personally, I would like to see the State governments force employers to provide adequate healthcare to every employee. To not cover people because they are earning a small wage or give them inadequate coverage so the company’s stock can go up a quarter of a point for the current quarter seems criminally negligent to me.
@ everyone
Nobody takes a civics or government or law class anymore, do they? Seems like a lot of you could benefit from reading the texts of these documents as well as precident decisions without constantly putting your two cents in so you can learn a little bit about America’s legal past. Then you might understand America’s legal present and future a little more.
Article 9 seems to be commonly forgotten by conservatives.