Comments on: happy easter – is the easter bunny real?

By: Dral

Dral — Mon, 26 May 2008 01:14:30 +0000

http://www.universallight.org/open_letter_from_god.htm

God never wrote the book. Hence why half of it is named after the apostles who wrote their versions.

By: reboot

reboot — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:17:01 +0000

How do you expect God to answer your prayers if He can’t even maintain editorial control over His own work? God supposed killed a guy just for trying to keep the Ark from tipping over, He should be able to bitch slap a monk for making a typo.

By: AlecDalek

AlecDalek — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 00:59:50 +0000

Tiki’s right. You can walk into almost any Christian bookstore and purchase “interlinear” versions of the Bible that have the original Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek.

Also, if God exists, I’m sure he’d exercise some influence over the transcription of the text to ensure his original message gets through. Without this assumption, how can a Christian believe a single word of it?

By: tiki god

tiki god — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 00:48:47 +0000

@rattybad
“o yeah, there could be some contradictions, but whether those were in there originally or not is impossible to say.”
uh, no.

For the most part the original scriptures are still available, and ready for anyone to go back and translate / interpret them

By: rattybad

rattybad — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 00:34:51 +0000

I don’t think it’s fair to assume that the contradictions are God’s…considering the text was written in several languages originally, and then transcribed and retranscribed over the ages, with Middle Ages monks purposefully changing the text to make themselves “immortal,” so to speak, and that’s only accounting for purposeful mistakes–how many people post here and misspell words that or say things that they don’t mean to? And then you have the King James Bible which was published with the express purpose of making the text more artful, and New Age Bibles that are meant to simplify ideas. So yeah, there could be some contradictions, but whether those were in there originally or not is impossible to say.

By: Ando

Ando — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:17:00 +0000

@TANAKA-3
“One really canâ€™t prove one way or the other.”
That old chestnut.
The burden of proof lies with the party making the ridiculous claim – see FSM.

By: TANAKA-3

TANAKA-3 — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:51:59 +0000

I would have to agree on that point too. One really can’t prove one way or the other. Makes these arguments kind of frustrating. and yeah, Christians need to stop trying to bring about a perfect world here.

By: AlecDalek

AlecDalek — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:50:48 +0000

It’s ironic that the only place you can get booze on Easter Sunday is at the Easter Service itself.

By: reboot

reboot — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:16:16 +0000

“I just wish religious groups would stop imposing their beliefs on others ”
I would be content if they didn’t close the liquor stores on Easter.

By: AlecDalek

AlecDalek — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:01:44 +0000

You’re absolutely right. But would think that if god gave us a book, it would be a lot clearer. He would have divine insight into how people would try to bend his words, and nip them in the bud by adding more details (like when exactly does a fetus become “human”).

Don’t get me wrong. I’m not an atheist, and I hope there really is a god or gods. I just haven’t been convinced. I don’t think you can prove there is a god and I don’t think you can prove there isn’t.

I just wish religious groups would stop imposing their beliefs on others (in a seemingly blatant attempt at convincing themselves). None of the major religions agree on very much, so civilization and human development get dragged down while a few closed minded “believers” drag the rest of us into wars and oppression. Given the track record, I think we may have been better without any of these “holy” documents.

By: TANAKA-3

TANAKA-3 — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:38:33 +0000

Do people ever misunderstand you? You communicate well, but ill bet people don’t always understand what you say or what you are trying to communicate. People want to take thing out of context and use them their own advantage. If I can use the Bible to prove that God wants me in power, why wouldn’t I do it. We can take anything out of context and make it say almost anything we want.

By: AlecDalek

AlecDalek — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:03:19 +0000

I don’t know what more than I can offer than cold hard proof. But the fact that there are so many different religions that have sprung up from one single book goes to show just how contradictory it really is.

If it was written by an all knowing god, you’d think they would be smart enough to know how to clearly communicate with their own creation. The fact that it can be interpreted in so many different ways testifies to it’s human origins.

Not to mention the fact that it took “god” over 4000 year to write one book (they created the entire earth in only 6 days). And even after the bible was written, around 100 AD, it was well over another 1000 years before it was made available to everyone to read. What took so long?

By: TANAKA-3

TANAKA-3 — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:37:19 +0000

No, I said there might be five. I don’t care how old a list is, it can still be wrong. There are people on both sides of the issue who wont change their minds and are blind to what they don’t want to see.

I found a lot of these too when I was a kid too, but as I grew up I looked more closely and they aren’t contradictions. An angel showed up to Mary in Mathew, and Joseph in Luke. The angel just showed up twice, for two different reasons. Told Mary what was going to happen, and Joseph not to bail. The only one I have problems with is how Judas died. The rest are contextual.

By: AlecDalek

AlecDalek — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:27:50 +0000

Even if there is ONE contradiction, that invalidates the concept of a “perfect being”. You are admitting to at least 5, which is more than enough.

There are in fact hundreds of errors and contradictions in both the old and new testament. The list I linked to is actually over a 100 years old, and has been vetted and examined for a long time. I found a number of them on my own back when I was younger and my parents made be do daily bible readings.

But then your typical christian isn’t accustomed to looking at things objectively. They’re already 100% committed to the lie, and don’t want to leave their comfort zone.

By: TANAKA-3

TANAKA-3 — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:11:58 +0000

@AlecDalek
No, there’s maybe five. Maybe. The rest are… taken out of context is the best way I can think of to say it. Like some one was looking to find things wrong with it and when they did, they wrote it down without trying to see if it could work. Does that make sense?

By: AlecDalek

AlecDalek — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:01:23 +0000

@TANAKA-3

Ok, maybe it’s actually 195, or 196. Lets not split hairs. The point is that if god exists, he needs to get his story straight.

By: TANAKA-3

TANAKA-3 — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:51:56 +0000

In regards to the site posted in comment 1: There aren’t 194 contradictions. I checked.

By: deuce

deuce — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:32:46 +0000

I believe the correct pluralization of Jesus is “Jesi”.

By: Caio

Caio — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 01:03:31 +0000

I was raised calling it PÃ¡scoa what does that mean Gor?

By: gor

gor — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 00:57:04 +0000

Why wouldn’t Jesus be real, I know alot of Jesus’.

Also, Easter is named after a pagan Anglo, Saxon and Viking goddess Eostre, the name has nothing to do with christain bible.

By: AlecDalek

AlecDalek — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 00:48:14 +0000

It is for some people.

By: Caio

Caio — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 00:41:05 +0000

Wow stunning new insight there alec.

By: AlecDalek

AlecDalek — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 18:43:40 +0000

Dude, seriously. The bible was just written by some people, and not some deity. Would a so-call “perfect” being write a book with so damn many mistakes?

http://skeptically.org/bible/id6.html