Comments on: Christianity Vs Atheism

By: tripolar

tripolar — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:21:52 +0000

@24601:
Yes, it was a joke. Bless you for noticing.

By: 24601

24601 — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:52:00 +0000

Roffle.. okay, Tripolar, I’m gonna guess you were just kidding when you said: “Ã¢â‚¬ËœTis a notion that can never be tested, to be sure, but Groucho said religion was the opiate of the masses: it makes people feel better when things hurt, it helps them to order their lives.”

.. You did mean Karl Marx, right?
If you did, good joke. If not.. heh.

By: Goldfinger

Goldfinger — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:07:27 +0000

@tiki:
HERETIC!!! You will burn in HELL for your feeble belief that tea should go in first. Of course milk (and sugar) go in first and you NEVER, EVER, EVER stir!
Wait ’til I get hold of your kneecaps!
Tea in first. I’ve never heard such a nonsense.

@Ando:
That is a good general rule, indeed. But that brings us to the old problem that people will believe anything until they find out it’s in the Bible.
Most of the things in there, especially in the Old Testament are not simply one of the three categories but a part of each. If you take the story of Noah: Of course we know, that mankind and all the animals did not descend from the passengers of the Ark. We cannot prove, if there has ever been something like the Ark (but there has most probably not been one). But we can be pretty sure that there has been a remarkable flood disaster that this myth is evolved from. And the place where the Ark is said to have landed did exist, for that we have archaeological proof. Although all those people climbing up Mt. Ararat to find the remains don’t seem to know much about the hebraic language, which contains no vocals and therefor the word ‘rrt’ could mean Mt. Ararat but it could also mean the nation of Uratru which was a pretty large nation in today’s eastern Turkey and northern Iraq and Iran.

That’s actually one thing my Professors use to joke about: We have about 5 times as much requests for digging permissions for Mt. Ararat as we have for the whole of Urartu.

Well, I hope you get my point out of all this rigmarole.

By: tiki god

tiki god — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:14:46 +0000

ando, as everyone knows the natural and holy way is to put the tea in first. Anything else is blaspheme.

By: Ando

Ando — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:29:53 +0000

@ Goldfinger
Apologies for my poor question. It made the assumtion that the bible consists solely of truth and metaphor.
A better question would have been:
“How can you tell what to take literally, what to take metaphorically and what to disregard as blatant fiction”
I find that a good general rule is to assume the latter unless there is evidence to the contrary.

@ Tiki
Do you believe that the milk goes in first or that the tea goes in first? *readies his kneecapping mallet*

By: tripolar

tripolar — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:46:46 +0000

People want things to make sense. A scenario where good is rewarded & evil punished makes sense to us, matches our sense of fair play. (Someone is an asshole in MCS, people want them punished, ie: banned: if some good-guy poster was banned, no-one would think that was just.) God is the referee/parent for a lot of people: he/she doles out the punishment AND the hugs. ‘Tis a notion that can never be tested, to be sure, but Groucho said religion was the opiate of the masses: it makes people feel better when things hurt, it helps them to order their lives.

By: tiki god

tiki god — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:00:05 +0000

@tripolar

And I’m not alone in my teapot beliefs. The only thing that I know is that there is 100% definitely not someone in the sky that pats my back when I do good, and punishes people that do bad. It’s great to guess about certain things, but really, why make up some “guy in the sky” hypothesis that can never be tested nor proven?

By: Goldfinger

Goldfinger — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:29:44 +0000

I prefer red grape juice.

oh, btw: HERETIC!!!

By: tripolar

tripolar — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:24:17 +0000

And I fucking love white grape juice.

By: tripolar

tripolar — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:23:47 +0000

@Lord:
I enjoyed the ‘discussion’/sugar-fuelled rantings in the first post more than this one. Don’t mind reposts like this one, though . . .

@tiki:
Faith is powerful. We believe what we wish to believe (I know, that’s not news). I’d like to believe in some benevolent power that created everything, looks out for us, and will give us a pat on the the back and some sort of debriefing when we die, but the very fact that I’d LIKE to believe makes my interpretations suspect. And I know I’m not alone here.