Don’t believe me? Look up some videos/pictures of the national anthem being played in Dubya’s presence. He’s got his hand on his heart every damn time.

Remembering this chapter of my youth, I’m going to have to point out that this controversy is stupid: If a conservative Bishop feels that National Anthem ritual is too conservative, it probably is. If you can out-conservative Rome, it’s quite likely you’re a fucktard.

Are you people fucking retarded? For one, who cares? “Zomg he will b a bad presydant becuz hit arm wasn’t ovur his heart”. what the fuck?

Also in the video on snopes reboot linked to like no one in the crowd was doing that. And most people agree that “Law” is outdated, and really you just need to show respect to the flag. And if you really are going to follow that law it also requires you to “Stand at attention facing the flag” Since none of them were actually facing the flag, everyone loses.

If you seriously think obama will be a bad president based on the fact his arm wasn’t in the air one time then you are a fucking moron and probably voted for bush.

In any event this was back in september 2007, no one fucking cares anymore.

I agree that if someone stands for the pledge because they always have or because they don’t want to be criticized than they aren’t doing it for the right reason. I don’t know how to properly word the rest of my feelings on this so for now I’ll stop.

loving your nation, hmm? that is a misguided and stereotypical view of patriotism, especially in america. here, our founding fathers were the rebels – our nation is all about changing the government when it gets out of hand. it is not about loving your nation and its leaders regardless of what they do. no, that is not patriotism, it’s blind faith.

if you can’t see a need for change in the running of our current government, you are simply in a sad state of denial. and as far as our soldiers are concerned, killing in the name of one’s nation doesn’t make the killing justified or noble. perhaps you should think about all of the innocent lives that our soldiers have ended instead of the ones that they’ve lost.

but you’re right. you can support whomever the hell you want and do whatever the hell you want and its fine with me. after all, this is america. we used to believe in freedom, and i still do.

@alec: by the same token that their attitude alone does not merit them worthy of the presidency, neither can they be president without the proper attitude and respect for this nations flag and all it represents. Your analogy to a flower can be taken many ways; 1: mere color alone. I’m not going to refrain from voting for him because he’s a flower of the wrong color (or a person of a different color, for that matter). 2: take shakespeare’s line about roses “a rose by any other name smells as sweet”, as well as (from i dunno who) “if it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck and swims like a duck, its probably a duck.” So no matter what you name him, or he names himself, his actions name him true. You can’t hide his disrespect for the flag and the countless brave souls who have died defending it behind “he doesnt want to sully his name by going along with everyone else”. Hell, i dont want to sully my lungs by breathing air, because serial rapists and murderers do the same thing. Just because it kinda sounds good does not mean its a good move, or a smart move. hell, it might even kill ya.

he’s a troll that will make america a bigger asshole on the world scene.

1000 year wars that can’t be paid for.

boooo!

McCain reminds me that old TV mini series called ‘V’

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_%28TV_series%29

his cranium always makes me think of that scene where the baby alien comes out of that chick’s tummy with that big creepy mouth