Osama For Obama

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    deutschlandia

    Oh, I get it. Because Obama rhymes with Osama.

    That’s good. Real funny.

    The Matrix: Rebooted

    stupidest. cartoon. ever. I’m counting Garfield.
    Has you ever actually read the the translation of bin Laden speeches? He’s a major Republican supporter. The invasion of Iraq was the best thing that ever happened to Al-Qaeda.

    schulzbrianr

    Not if you ask all those dead Al-Qaeda guys the military has killed. I bet they aren’t so thrilled. Also, where do you get those translations? I haven’t read any, but that makes no sense to me. Republicans tend to support war on terror, and Democrats favor “talking” to terrorist organizations, trying to bring about peace. The whole point of terrorism is to kill innocent people (or the point of radical Islam terrorists, I guess the IRA is more about getting governmental rights or something) so if you mean that if we are at war with them, then they can kill us without fear of starting a war, but in the essence that they are safer if we aren’t trying to kill them all, then I think that those translations were done by someone who wanted to get a certain response out of it, no matter what the “real” words meant. Again, I haven’t read any, because I don’t truly care, but I have a feeling that there are several different translations that can come about based on what source you use based off of what result you want. Which is why I hate politics, the news, and people.

    The Matrix: Rebooted

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    I got the translations fro Al-Jazeera.
    With the rest of what you’ve said you’re missing the point, even Islamic terrorists aren’t just trying to kill innocent people, they have a political agenda. Al-Qaeda wanted Saddam out of power so they could turn yet another country into an islamo-fascist state. It doesn’t matter whether we leave tomorrow or ten years from now, that’s exactly what will happen in Iraq.
    The war in Iraq has been a great recruitment tool for them. Every time the US accidentally kills a few civilians, all of their family and friends become potential recruits.
    Look at Afghanistan, the religious radicals have already taken over the government again, and we haven’t even officially left.

    deuce

    Schulzbrianr doesn’t realize that the Al-Qaeda guys are happy to die for their cause. “Suicide” bombers, remember?

    Al-Qaeda’s grown beyond their wildest dreams because of the stupidity and ignorance of the Republican party… before, all the various Arab sects and sub-sects hated one another, but now they’re starting to unite under a common enemy… us. We (a self-proclaimed “Christian nation”) invaded two sovereign Arab nations, one without provocation and under false pretenses, dumping incalculable gallons of gasoline on the anti-American fire that was already smoldering there. George Bush’s own father knew how stupid it would be to invade an Arab nation, but his son ignored him and all the other people that knew better, and thanks to him, his psychopathic advisers, and his stupid, blind-ass party in Congress (not to mention the weak-willed, pathetic opposition party that couldn’t find one ball between them to stand up to him) we’ll be fighting Bush’s Al-Qaeda until our grandchildren are centegenarians.

    deuce

    Ohhh snap.

    slothman

    The long-range goal of al-Qaeda is to unify numerous Muslim nations under the old caliphate. The only way that’s going to happen is if there’s a strong enough external threat that they feel the need to band together; George Bush has been great news for bin Laden because Bush’s policies validate bin Laden’s rhetoric. The last thing Osama bin Laden wants is someone who will concentrate on just fighting terrorists and minimizing the conversion rate of nonterrorists into terrorists.

    dekay46

    i like boobs.

    tiki god

    I’m with dekay 46 on this issue.

    Caio

    I do agree that Bush is a walking recruitment poster for Al-Qaeda. I also agree that Reagan turned Al-Qaeda from a small cell of barely organized “International Muslims” fighting in Afganestan in the 1980s into one of the most well-trained, best equiped terrorist organizations in the world. Or ‘paramilitary’, as Reagan would say, the old charmer. But all evidence provided by the US government suggests that there are such a small number of Al-Qaeda operatives in Iraq that they are practically indetectable, much less killable.
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    According to the NIE (composed of the CIA ect), only 15% or less of terrorist attacks in Iraq are actually staged by Al-Qaeda. The majority of Iraqis, unlike, say, Saudi Arabia and Yemen, tend to adhere to more traditional sects of Islam, under the Sunni and Shi’a umbrella. They claim that the few Al-Qaeda operatives they have evidence for are smuggled into the country via Syria (oh, yes, economically crippled Iraq is the threat, not heavily militarized, terrorist-sheltering Syria). Futhermore, the Iraqi insurgency recently denounced Al-Qaeda.
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    The US government reckons that Al-Qaeda has about 1000 operatives in Iraq, making up for less than one percent of the insurgency. On the other hand, Northern Africa has been buzzing with Al-Qaeda activity, as has Syria and the peninsula.
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    Bush fought the war in Iraq because America wanted Muslim blood and it seemed like the easiest war: Daddy had left the country blockaded by other Muslim countries and in economic ruins. Iraq had no role in terrorism, and no history of the Islamic sects which we associate with international torrorism. If Bush had went in and fought Syria instead, it would have done worlds of good, but been a much more difficult war, and probably turned into a Vietnam, rather than a minor insurgency.
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    Hell, if Bush had gone into Syria, the resistance against Israel would have collapsed like a house of cards, and we might have hope for Peace in the Middle East one day. But instead he fought in Iraq, which he reckoned would have looked better for TV cameras. A man with that kind of low ethical character and that kind of an opportunistic drive makes me fucking disgusted.
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    Fighting Iraq to get Al-Qaeda – according to the US government/intelligence agencies itself – is something like bombing Madrid to fight the Russians.

    schulzbrianr

    Jeez, Ciao, why don’t you just run for president if you know so much about the government and how to fix it, and how everyone else did wrong? Remember, what you see isn’t all there is.

    Kaze

    Face it, some countries are just better than the U.S.
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    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Suicide_rates_map.svg
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    As the quality of life increases as do suicide rates

    Goldfinger

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    Afghanistan is not part of the Arab World. Even if: How much the Arabian leaders care about an arabian country being attacked is clearly visible in Iraq. None of them stood up against the US – because the US is more important for them than some nutjob dictator who already attacked his arab neigbors before.

    storminator

    I bet he changed his mind… right before that bullet went through his fucking head.

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