ordinary americans with guns

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During 1992 LA Riots, police and National Guard couldn’t protect everyone from mobs fo murderers, arsonists and looters.  Ordinary Americans with guns stopped the rampaging mobs, saving countless innocent lives.


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    Caio
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    Not even five enforcement agencies can save their own, never mind *the people*. Tonite it’s raining on the Angels of the City. Did anyone prophesize these people? *Only Travis*

    Paul_Is_Drunk
    Member

    *face palm*

    T G Geko
    Member

    I really think they should have used someone more white for the “average american”

    coolghoul
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    Come in Travis!!

    natedog
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    being an ‘average american’ has nothing to do with skin color.

    and it says ‘ordinary american’ anyway.

    Alec Dalek
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    Oh Noes! We don’t want to work, and want to have everything handed to us, but blame whitey for out poverty. Let’s beat up some random white guy for doing this too us. Baby Daddy, Hoodrat, Poe-leese, Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie!

    Alec Dalek
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    And it wasn’t a race riot, it was a LOSER riot. These people are losers. The guy that filmed the beating? White. That’s right, whitey isn’t as bad as you want to think we are. Now stop blaming us for all your fucking problems and get a fucking job!!!

    diabeetus
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    ITT: Idiots who don’t know their history A lot of the blacks hispanics trashed the Korean business districts following the Rodney King and the liquor store incident. What did they do to protect their shops and stores when the militia weren’t there to protect them? The Koreans began stocking up on arms and ammunition and used that to fend off any intruders. Hence the reason why OP’s post has an asian instead of the typical redneck that many idiots like you expect. After that incident, I know many Koreans who resented blacks and hispanics for their racially targeted assaults. After… Read more »

    Sticky
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    Diabeetus: That was only one part of the problem. There was really a low simmer going for the past year or so. Rodney King was just the final bit of flame needed for a boil over.

    Saphykitten
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    Never trust a chinaman with a gun. Hes bound to shoot your dog and eat it eventually.

    Alec Dalek
    Member

    @Saphykitten.
    Wow, you make me sound tolerant.

    Corinth
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    Corinth

    This ad. makes me sick. Nothing about the racials, more that it states that guns makes you safer.

    Less guns everywhere makes you safer.

    skanderbeg
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    skanderbeg

    now if only statistics backed that up.

    The Matrix: Rebooted
    Member

    “Less guns everywhere makes you safer.”
    Which is why in the 31-years that guns were banned from Washington DC crime rates fell and it was the safest city in the country.

    skanderbeg
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    skanderbeg

    My favourite tale of DC “safety” was the FBI internal memo that directed women members to go in pairs to the washrooms and announced see around corner mirrors throughout FBI HQ. Please provide link to substantiation for your premise.

    Rawr
    Member

    @reboot

    *applause*

    garbledxmission
    Member

    and the Mayor was a shining beacon of morality and law abidingness.

    Phyreblade
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    @Corinth
    Whatever you’re smoking, I need some. Like right now.

    Caio
    Member

    And oddly enough, I’ve only ever been robbed in the States.

    schulzbrianr
    Member

    Well, I’ve lived here 24 years, and I’ve never been robbed, so you must look like a real pansy.

    gerardolm
    Member

    Wait, “stopping” people with guns doesn’t also mean killing “innocent” people?

    schulzbrianr
    Member

    Not if the “innocent” people are mobs bent on destroying, looting, stealing, attacking, etc. Then they are barely even human. Have you seen the footage of people stampeding at concerts, where they TRAMPLE another human being because their brain ceases to function? Plus, not every gunshot is fatal. Plus, in America, you have the right to defend yourself if you feel threatened, and meet force with force.

    Caio
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    Well, let’s see. When my apartment complex was robbed, police estimated there were at least 6 armed robbers involved. Even if I was there, and armed, do you think I would have done some amazing Clint Eastwood thing and taken out all six? Sorry, homes, this isn’t the movies. When someone points a gun to your head, it doesn’t matter how manny guns you have under the counter. Course, I lived in the city. I guess most of these gun nuts live in all-cracker Gated Communities or else in Bruce-Springsteen hell towns where there ain’t no robbries cuz there ain’t… Read more »

    The Matrix: Rebooted
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    “When my apartment complex was robbed, police estimated there were at least 6 armed robbers involved. Even if I was there, and armed, do you think I would have done some amazing Clint Eastwood thing and taken out all six?” Or you could evaluate the risk from the other side of the equation. If the robbers know that no one has guns, then six armed guys clearly have the upper hand and there is little to no risk. But if a significant percentage of the population is armed, then there is a 1/6 chance of getting their head blown off… Read more »

    Phyreblade
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    @Caio Unfortunately I also disagree with you. I think reboot has the right idea. Being armed is as much a deterrent as it is a defensive advantage. In the scenario you describe, if the first person to walk through the door were to get a round between the eyes, what do you think that would that do for the motivation of the other 5? And how much better are your odds in a more realistic scenarios, like confronting an opportunistic burglar? Or a mugger on the street? These happen waaaaay more often that the scenario you described, and having a… Read more »

    Corinth
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    Corinth

    the most realistic scenario in a situation where 6 armed robbers enters your building and you draw a gun is that you die. I think you’d be more likely to survive if you werent armed. Also you could ask the question, is someone taking your stuff/money worth killing for?. I think that any safety you get by owning a gun is false safety, and that when its easy for everyone to get guns you just get a bad circle where more and more people feel they need guns. and soon they’re everywhere. But maybe im just naive, i live in… Read more »

    Caio
    Member

    Some thoughts: . 1) The robbers didn’t break through the door, they climbed up the fire escape. After sneaking into the garage somehow. They only hit the appartments where no one was home (most people weren’t: it was the middle of the day). According to people in the building who heard the glass shatter and an old lady accross the street watching, the whole thing lasted about fifteen minutes. If I was home and they walk in on me by accident, I probably would have been taken by surprise, but they would already have guns in their hand, not me.… Read more »

    Corinth
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    Corinth

    what would you do then?

    schulzbrianr
    Member

    Ciao:
    What if you were home, but not armed, and got your ass shot, even if you didn’t have a gun, because they came armed for a reason? Then wouldn’t you at least want to take one with you?

    Also, just because you don’t know how to use a gun, or wouldn’t use one, doesn’t mean I don’t/won’t. Yes, my things are worth killing for, if you think they’re worth stealing. I worked hard to earn money to buy things for myself, some piece of shit isn’t going to just take them away from me without my strong protest.

    Corinth
    Member
    Corinth

    so in a way your for punishing stealing with death?

    schulzbrianr
    Member

    *you’re

    And, yes. If it’s six armed people who have every intention of killing me for my property, yes, I have a right to defend my property, myself, and, if I were married or had children, to protect their lives.

    Phyreblade
    Member

    @Corinth I’m sorry, but I’ve lived in too many places where violence was frequent, unpredictable and illogical, and I think your contention is based on a rather optimistic view of the average armed robber. That is not to say that any armed robber is automatically going to kill his victims, however the robber who has made the conscious decision to not kill or harm his victims will usually *not* bring a weapon along… Think about it. And to answer your question, *I* do not believe that any material possession is worth killing for, however *many* do, and others will kill… Read more »



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