My two grandfathers were nowhere near Europe or the Nazis. That is until they flew over and risked their lives to kill them.

Which they were in no way obligated to do.

That’s who should get the fucking memorials. The guys who could have said “solve your own fucking problems” but instead went over and did the right thing at as much risk as can be imagined. No padded figures or crying baby pictures for the guys who saved all the Jews etc that survived/were rescued. Most they get is a wall with their name etched in if anyone remembered them.

I’m white Anglo-Saxon.

PS: Whitey is the last type of person to piss off. We tend to go overboard with the killin and such.

anyway, let’s not forget the German workers who were opposed to Fascism. Communists, Socialists, Trade Unionists, and even Catholic Worker’s Party members were also sent to camps – in fact were the first residents at the labor camps. Nazism was a reaction to Communism, antisemitism was certainly there, but Hitler got elected on a wave of anti-communist sentiment more than anti-jewish sentiment.

that said, 8 million for Hitler and 11 million for Stalin are generally accepted total figures for civilian deaths that were politically motivated (death figures outside of combat).

Let me tell you about my mother’s side of the family: My grandfather was from a weathly, aristocratic Polish family who, after WWI, ended up with most of their land on the wrong side of the German border. My Grandfather was a student in Warsaw, though, and when the Nazis invaded, he ended up in the fields. Eventually the Nazis threw him on a train, which he jumped off, and ran to Hungry, by foot. A friend told him that his family was gone, and to flee to Palestine. Soon after, my Grandfather got caught by a Nazi and ended up in Bergen-Belson for a year or so, that is after getting three gunshot wounds. He was a survivor, but to this day we still have no clue what happened to his family: Killed by the Nazis? Killed by the Russians? A couple corpses were found in mass graves in the 90s, but that still doesn’t account for most of them.

So, yeah, I used to be a girly sensitive dickwad, saying ‘Not only Jews were sent in the concentration camps’ and ‘Who remembers the Gypsies, or the partitions of Poland or the massacres in China, or the Aztecs, other people than the Jews have been oppressed!!’ And I’d wave my fist in the air in no particular direction. Then one day I grew up and I realized: There’s no huge oppression contests going on. What the fuck? The Jew, the Pole, the Rastaman, the Chinee, we need to stop fighting and fussing amongst each other and turn against our common enemy: White Anglo-Saxons. Fuck you cracker.

So no not a minimum of 8 or upwards of 11.

Also the % of those who were Jewish has dropped too.

The Nuremberg trials have some crazy ‘accounts’ that German soldiers were executed over that turned out to be false. Like the magic laser beam that killed a whole room, the electrocuted floor, or the Nazi soldier that ripped a Jewish baby in half. The fact that people were executed over those claims is insane (those were only a few that turned out to be blatant lies). I just don’t understand the mentality. I mean it’s bad enough. No need to bullshit. Cause then people start questioning the validity of the truth.

See how well conditioned you are though? Not only is it law, it’s morally infused into you to never doubt any claim or comment about the holocaust and never actually think about it. Just agree that it was the most horrible thing in the history of the universe and hug your favorite Jew.

Sorry for actually wanting to know more than I was spoon fed in the school system.