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    bejamus

    KHAAAAAAN!!

    diabeetus

    Star Wars > Star Trek

    DISCUS

    LordPartyTime

    Discuss > discus

    However, I mostly agree with you. Star Wars aliens are more than just humans with face putty and aggressive eating habits. Those bloodworms or whatever it is that the Klingons eat just makes me queasy. However, Star Trek DOES have Patrick Stewart…
    Then again, you can’t really compete with the ensuing storyline of the star wars universe. I mean, there’s no way the Borg can compare with the yuzong vong, even species 8472 aren’t as cool.

    Caio

    Let’s see…

    Well, Star Wars is about six hours of total entertainment, minus 40 minutes for Ewoks, 20 minutes for sloppy writing in Return, about an hour for all the crappy CGI added in, and two hours because the first movie was a remake of a much better movie. I’m also gonna take off a moralizing ten minutes as the force was a crappy plot-hole filling device, and because the prequels ruined the originals. That leaves us with “Empire Strikes Back”.

    Now, with Star Trek, you’ve got four Classics (II, IV, VI, VIII), and a few other decent ones. And that’s just the movies. The shows provide hundreds of hours of compelling, well-written episodes with good character development. Star Trek also introduced generation after generation to the very concept of Ethics. Star Wars, on the other had, happily promoted the merciless and unnecissary slaughter of civilians, and the was, essentially, about a massive religions war. That might have flew in the 70s, but nowadays we call it a Jihad. Just saying.

    LordPartyTime

    Caio, if you must be plugged into visual displays for your entertainment, then yes, star trek does indeed have more hours of entertainment. However, if you have the ability to actually read, then your calculations for hours of enjoyment are off by a tremendous amount.

    For your ethics, I did in fact get my womanizing and promiscuous attitude from none other than James T. Kirk himself. *hums I’m a playa*

    Star wars did not promote the slaughter of civilians, but showed it to be the true tragedy it was, as I assume you are referring to the destruction of Alderaan, by the incensed response from the rebellion and the surge in both military and funding for the rebel forces. (again, documented in more detail if you take responsibility for your enjoyment and do some reading). As for the GCW being a religious war, I guess you could say that, if you call the subjugation of almost every non-human species a religion.

    Early CGI is laughable when compared with today’s technology. I mean, just look at those transporters and phaser beams and the early space battles of the USS Enterprise NCC-1701. Seriously. Have you even seen Star Wars, or are you just arguing to argue?

    CMoorehead

    Old Special Effects pnws New CGI. Older CGI involved an almost lost art of Model Building, and Puppeteering. Both of which were easy to believe in. These days movies rely on so much CGI the movies no longer have a REAL feel. I could look at a monster or a spaceship in the older movies and go, “yet, I can buy that.” Today I see a CGI monster or spaceship and can’t believe in it, as it looks completely fake. With that in mind I don’t think either one is better than the other. Both Star Wars The Original Trilogy and the Most of the Star Trek movies had great actors, great characters, great villains, and great stories. Anyone can find a character in both to love and hate. Now as time went on and both franchises decided to update, add on, or extend they lost the cinematic magic they once had. In order to make the most money, draw the biggest crowd, they had to make sacrifices. Some cut the runtime, some increased to explain who, what, when, why, and where. It is my firm belief that the powers that be in Hollywood think people are idiots and that we can no longer watch a movie that is over 88min. Almost every new movie that comes out in America is a huge disappointment to me. I either know what will happen from scene to scene, or some dickhead decides to update a classic film and fuck it up beyond, “Just missing the mark”. Examples would be Dawn of the Dead, The Hitcher, The Wicker Man. Those movies made cinematic history, and some executive decides, “Hey I know a way to make a quick buck”, and commits cinematic sodomy. Granted there are a few films that come along and surprise me, but those are few and very far between. Which is why I have found myself sticking to British Cinema. Also, British television is far superior to that of American television, and if you don’t believe it, why else would yank producers recreate the same show over here, but with American actors. But I digress.

    The Matrix: Rebooted

    if you must be plugged into visual displays for your entertainment, then yes, star trek does indeed have more hours of entertainment. However, if you have the ability to actually read, then your calculations for hours of enjoyment are off by a tremendous amount.

    There is nothing “enjoyable” about the hack work of Star Wars novels. If you read Star Wars (or Star Trek) books, just shoot yourself: you’re already putting something far worse than a bullet in your brain.

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