France – What Can You Motherfuckers do?

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    Dondivad
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    The French belong in the kitchen!

    Kero
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    Dondivad on October 25th, 2007 11:09 pm

    The women belong in the kitchen!

    Fixed for you.

    ladyoftheorb
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    A woman should be a cook in the kitchen, a maid in the living room, and an acrobat in the bedroom.

    The Matrix: Rebooted
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    Make really good food.
    Build nuclear power plants.
    Accurately determine whether or not a country has WMDs.
    Anyone in the US better check to see who has the America’s Cup before making fun of other countries for losing at their own sport.

    vygramul
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    That’s really the best you can do, Reboot? The America’s Cup? If anything, that pretty much just proves the point.

    The Matrix: Rebooted
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    The best I can do? How many races are there named after America? Most of you kids don’t remember, but the America’s Cup used to kind of a big deal that got media coverage. Until America started to lose frequently.
    Converse with Tour de France. 99% of Americans had never heard of the Tour de France until Lance Armstrong.
    So yeah, our country’s pretty awesome as long as we only pay attention to the things we’re awesome at and ignore the things we suck at. Fuck yeah!
    Besides there no point to be proved, we’ve just joking around about each other’s countries, right?

    Necrocardium
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    Build nuclear power plants. French President Nicolas Sarkozy denied France had planned to sell a latest generation nuclear reactor to Libya. But they did sell and or are building in: China, Iran, North Korea. They also like selling military hardware and weapons because they have no use for them.

    kn0xy
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    kn0xy

    what the hell? 99%? bad reboot, bad.

    RepairmanJack
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    “They also like selling military hardware and weapons because they have no use for them.” -Necrocardium

    And we don’t, we gave Afghanistan weapons and equipment to fight the communists and helped support many countries by giving or selling our old crap. They also had a 80% turnout on their last election. They may have a crappy judicial system, but they aren’t total losers.

    BTW we need more nuclear power plants in this country, it would help a lot with our energy needs.

    miss_guinness
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    Sleep with your girlfriend on her European vacation.

    windrider
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    Vietnam. Afghanistan. Iraq.

    American’s shouldn’t talk.

    windrider
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    (Excuse the incorrect apostrophe.)

    unknown
    Member

    The European version of this silly image would read:

    1. Can handle your own freedom (PATRIOT act, election scandals)
    2. Can’t fight your own battles (Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq).
    3. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BALCO

    Paul_Is_Drunk
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    Yeesh. We even put Saddam Hussein in power.

    What the…? How is it that Saddam Hussein checks out in my spellchecker but words like spellchecker don’t?

    anto123
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    anto123

    You should have put Landis in the photo instead of Armstrong.

    Gilly
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    They can’t even keep their part of the continent from drifting towards america.

    Fukken losers. Even in Tectonics.

    Distracted
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    Distracted

    You do realize that California, a single state in America, has a larger economy than all of France, right?

    You do realize that California is run inefficiently, the budget is late, the legislature are idiots, and our Governor has to work with a cabinet of people that hate him – – yet we still have a larger economy than France.

    Then again I’m being unfair. California has the 5th largest economy in the world as a state alone.

    Hepathos
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    And they wonder why everybody hate America… 😀

    I don’t hate it personaly. At least, not in a daily level. Just at the weekends.

    The Matrix: Rebooted
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    Distracted, I think you are wrong. GDP of France = $2.1 trillion. GDP of Cali = $1.62 trillion.
    As a stand alone California is 7th or 8th economy in the world. Dethklok is 12th.

    b.schweik
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    b.schweik

    1) Can’t control your own people? WTF? So Nazi Germany was the shit then, right? Am I supposed to take this seriously? At least the French don’t bend over and smile when their government is trying to fuck them in the ass. Something I cannot claim for vast majority of our population. 2) Can’t fight your own battles? WTF? And that’s a comment coming from America? France was kicking ass all over Europe for centuries before US was even formed. France really lost only WW2 – and frankly so would any country if it bordered Nazi Germany. UK was saved… Read more »

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca
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    Can take a joke.

    Whereas Americans tend to throw hissy fits like wee little girls when anyone says anything bad about their beloved country of hahafreedomhaha.

    Let’s all raise a glass of American beer flavoured water to conditioning!

    PS: never judge a country by it’s political actions. You wouldn’t want everyone judging you by yours now would you?

    nnmnu
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    I dont think that it was russia that won ww2

    garbledxmission
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    Actually Russia did NOT win WWII. Without the US’s involvement the Russians would have been beaten as well. They were in pretty bad shape until the Germans were forced to pull back due to 1)the brutal Russian winter. (and if Napoleon couldn’t do it, what chance did the Nazis have?) and 2)the need to redeploy German forces due to the US attacks in Europe. That gave the Russians some desperately needed time to regroup and build up their forces again. As for WWI, the US wasn’t officially involved. There were supplies/volunteers/advisors from the US, but that was it. Trying to… Read more »

    b.schweik
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    b.schweik

    nnmnu, I am willing to make a slight correction – WW2 was won by allies. A part of WW2 – war against Nazi Germany was largely won by the Soviet Russia with assistance from the US and UK. My point however, is that Americans tend to count WW2 as their personal victory, while they really can only claim victory over Japan (which they did with the assistance of other allies).

    garbledxmission
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    no, actually they pretty much beat the Japanese on their own in the Pacific Front. russian forces did drive japan out of china, tho since that was their backyard, it was in their best interests to get japan out. The russian and uk forces were in a near shambles by the time the US finally joined the war. It was primarily the US that pushed the nazis back from the european front and into germany. The russians started their own retaliation on germany’s eastern front, but that front was largely abandoned by the nazis to fight the western campaign.

    b.schweik
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    b.schweik

    garbledxmission, See my reply to nnmnu above. Also, by the time of D-Day the Soviet Army had freed most of it’s territory and was on offensive in Eastern Europe (Romania, Hungary, etc.) D-Day helped and probably saved millions of Russians lives, but its role tends to be seriously overestimated by American historians, who also tend to underestimate Russian participation. To claim that US did not participate in WW1 IS ignorant. Over 100,000 American soldiers died, over 200,000 were wounded. Sure, they were not officially part of the “Allies”, but US “drafted four million men and by summer 1918 was sending… Read more »

    garbledxmission
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    and here we go again. Maybe you should stop putting words in other people’s mouths and put the dick back in your own. If you could get off your Meme rant for half a moment and read my post i did NOT say the US did not participate in the war, i said “As for WWI, the US wasn’t officially involved. There were supplies/volunteers/advisors from the US, but that was it.” Yes, they intially had thousands of VOLUNTEERS involved in the war, but considering tens of MILLIONS were involved their role was not pivotal, which is what i actually said.… Read more »

    The Matrix: Rebooted
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    By the numbers:
    German military casualties in WW2: 5,533,000
    German military casualties on the Eastern Front alone:4,300,000
    UK, US, et al was a sideshow, the real war was fought and won by Russia. As b.schweik pointed out Russia was already advancing when D-Day took place. There is even the point of view that D-Day was staged not to defeat Germany, but to prevent Russia from just conquering all of the Europe.
    Love these off-topic threads.

    garbledxmission
    Member

    You’re sooo right, the fact that germany had overrun most of europe to the atlantic and the channel was “a sideshow”. The only reason german casualties were so high on the eastern front was because they had overrun the rest of europe with relativly little resistance and losses WITH RUSSIA’S HELP, and that when then did turn on russia, they managed to time it to coicide with the onset of winter. Piss poor planning/hitler’s justified paranoia of his russian “allies”/whatever, it was fighting a battle in the middle of winter on the russian steppes that did so many of them… Read more »

    b.schweik
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    b.schweik

    garbledxmission “Maybe you should do some research that isn’t directly ripped off from Wiki, and isn’t as shallow as a kiddie toilet, you hack.” So it is from Wiki – care to discredit this information? Attacking the source instead of the information itself, doesn’t necessarily make you a scholar. Neither do personal attacks. “The russian and uk forces were in a near shambles by the time the US finally joined the war. It was primarily the US that pushed the nazis back from the european front and into germany. The russians started their own retaliation on germany’s eastern front, but… Read more »

    b.schweik
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    b.schweik

    garbledxmission, Oh, and as far as you blaming Russian winter for the high casualty rate among Nazi Germany on the Eastern front. – Here is a link to a month by month breakdown: www.feldgrau.com/stats.html If you were correct than the summer months would have a significant drop in casualties. However this is not the case. In fact it looks like July, August, and September were the bloodiest. Why would that be? Or is it the famous Russian “General Summer” with its notorious Russian heat? I am not saying that Russians did not use their geographical location to their advantage. Sure… Read more »

    LonelyTylenol
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    The French version of this would read:

    Wish I knew who you were, Unknown guy, but I’d like to make an amendment:

    Can’t fight your own battles (Revolutionary War)

    Also, I hear the French women can do things that would make our prostitutes blush.

    I think that has to count for something.

    garbledxmission
    Member

    Hmmm, let’s see…. I stated that due to limited resistance, the western front fell to the Germans much more quickly than their attack on the Russians….you said the same thing in your counter post. I stated that the Germans were fighting their battles across the Russian steppes, which are much larger in area than the western front…you said the same thing in your counter post. I stated that the Germans made a huge tactical error in attacking during the Russian winter leading to massive casualties….you said the same thing in your counter post. As for forces involved, without the Russian… Read more »

    garbledxmission
    Member

    The reason russian summers are so bad is because half their land turns into a quagmire during that part of the year…oh, and the fact that their summers are about 3 MONTHS LONG.

    garbledxmission
    Member

    and wouldn’t those 3 months, july, august and september be the times when the germans would be pushing the hardest before the weather turned on them again, thereby pushing the casualty rates higher than in the winter months? And no, the russian winters affect on the conflict were no myth, as anyone who fought during it would tell you. (they have many first hand interviews on tape/video and print, feel free to check them out) The weather played brutal havoc on men, equipment, terrian and supply lines. Trying to minimize its’ effect is the cynical POV, not the reverse.

    garbledxmission
    Member

    sorry, effect.

    The Matrix: Rebooted
    Member

    Russian and Germany were never “allies”. The Molotove-Ribbentrop Non-agression Pact was an agreement not to attack each and a partition of eastern europe. You almost seem to imply that Russian troops were fight along side the Germans, but I don’t want to put words in your mouth. My whole point was that without the US counterattack on the western front, the Germans would have had a massive base of resources/manpower/material from which to continue their advancement into Russian territory, while the Russians had scorched earth, limited resources/depleted troops and the Japanese at their backdoor occupying China. Add to that the… Read more »

    garbledxmission
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    Call it whatever you like, while they obviously weren’t fighting side by side, they sure as shit were making it easier for each other to make significant tactical advances. Split hairs over terminology all you like. While the DDay invasion did take place in June ’44, you seem to have forgotten that American troops/equipment/supplies had been going into the UK in April of ’42, REOPENING THE WESTERN FRONT. Combine that with the aerial bombing campaigns beginning in 39 by the RAF and the US in 42 that devastated the German munitions&equipment infrastructure and it’s no wonder that they couldn’t keep… Read more »

    b.schweik
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    b.schweik

    I stated that the Germans made a huge tactical error in attacking during the Russian winter leading to massive casualties The mistake was that the Russian resistance unexpected. They attacked Russia in June (early summer) and did not think the war would last until winter. But as I have said before – geographical location DID play a role. My argument is simply that it was not THE major factor. 8-15 million Russian soldiers sacrificing their lives was the major factor. My whole point was that without the US counterattack on the western front, the Germans would have had a massive… Read more »

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca
    Member

    Let’s forget all our troubles with a big bowl of Strawberry ice cream.

    b.schweik
    Member
    b.schweik

    garbledxmission, I just saw your reply to reboot… Rocky is fighting Apollo Creed. It’s 10th round. Both are bloody, but Rocky is winning, is on heavy offensive, and Apollo had a few knockdowns already. According to you the guy who wipes Rocky’s face and gives him fresh water in between rounds is “the second front.” The second front opened in June 1944. Period. Before that UK was trying to defend itself and US had some limited participation in a few places. Plus the supplies of course. But no second front. Look at the numbers, casualties, etc. Germans barely participated in… Read more »

    garbledxmission
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    Fair enough. but, if you read my last post, the WF WAS reopened in 42, not 44. Do some more research. The last half of august and most of september are more autumn months than summer in russia. While I haven’t lived there for years on end, i have worked there on several occasions and have experienced various aspects of their weather. Plus the length of their summer would depend on which region we were referring to, wouldn’t it? Russia is a large country with a healthy range of seasonal differences depending on your location. The russians did give the… Read more »

    garbledxmission
    Member

    According to you the guy who wipes Rocky’s face and gives him fresh water in between rounds is “the second front.” So bombing the shit out of the german infrastructure for two years is “wiping someone’s face.” “The second front opened in June 1944. Period. ” Wrong. I’m going to say this again, do some more research. Your ability to downplay the aeral bombing campaigns is on a parity with your imagined perception of my downplaying of russian combat. “Germans barely participated in Africa, Italy, etc.” On the italian front i’ll agree with you, on the African front, well, i… Read more »

    b.schweik
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    b.schweik

    garbledxmission, We could continue our discussion, but frankly I do not have the time… Although I would love to continue the discussion especially about the second front opening before 1944 (the things you call “the second front” that is), it is obvious that our opinions will not change and that the argument is going into very subjective and strictly theoretical direction. I enjoyed the argument… I DO believe that US and UK helped Russia a lot, and hope that in the course of the argument I did not downplay the sacrifices of many American, British, Canadian, Australian, and other allies’… Read more »

    garbledxmission
    Member

    And with that, i wish you all a great weekend. If you are partying for halloween, be safe and have fun.



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