though I will say Christianity is the lesser of the two evils.

“Given the fact that atheists have had such short influence in terms of the history of mankind. One can only think the devastation an atheist could do if they ruled throughout human history.”

My reply:

“Most Greek and Roman scholars didn’t believe in their gods or any afterlife. Two of the most prominent civilizations of all time. Rome only fell after it became a Christian nation.”

Explanation:

Not only was this pagan nation one of the most successful of all time, many of its most prominent citizens were atheists. This proves A) atheism has not had a ‘short influence’ as you claim and B) the ruled throughout human history and no devastation was caused, despite your assertions.

To further counter your point, once Christianity was established as a state religion, the empire fell. This DRASTICALLY contradicts your ideas that atheists as rulers would cause a downfall, as in this case the OPPOSITE was true.

As for atheistic religions:
Look up Confucianism and Taoism. They exist. They are religions. They don’t worship ANY gods. You can deny that all you want, but it’s true.

Oh, my favorite part is when you ignore my last statement and instead declare victory. When all else fails, right? Speaking of, when people start losing arguments and have no rational arguments left, they start to curse, just like you did.

I’ll bet anyone 100 internets iddqd never answers the question why he denies all other religions but not his own.

You made the argument that Christians defined the moral codes of the US via law, and that US morality is drawn from Christianity, hinting that the Bible is the only possible source of morality. I merely pointed out that Christians don’t follow their own ethical codes. Neither does anybody, really. There is no religious on earth without ‘do unto others’ and there is almost no human alive who practises that very rule.

Instead of taking the argument all over the place, the onus would be on you to prove to me that morality is something entirely derived from religious text, and not merely something that happens when humans get together in groups.

LOL WUT? You obviously don’t understand the concept of causation and effect–Economics 101. Perhaps the fall of Rome caused the surge of Christianity? I heard that it was raining when Rome was breaking apart. Maybe it was the weather that caused the fall of Rome. I kid, I kid. I don’t understand how this stupid argument fits in with this discussion. Rome was an empire. I thought you liberals/atheists hated empires.

Kinda like how you once again ignored the fact that both Confucianism and Taoism are atheistic religions that have been around centuries and ruled dynasties, but in your estimation atheism has only been around recently.

So I guess that makes all atheists buddhists right? How come Charles Dawkins doesn’t have his head shaved and isn’t wearing a robe? Why did Stalin insist that he be worshipped as a cult of personality while slaughtering his own people? And another thing, “atheistic religion”….wtf? That’s like saying you’re a “Satanic Christian.”

The icing on this pathetic cake is that you realize that all OTHER religions are wrong, you just have a blind spot towards your own.

Admit it already. You just fucking failed.

The icing on this pathetic cake is that you realize that all OTHER religions are wrong, you just have a blind spot towards your own.