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September 24, 2007 at 12:10 pm
I lose. =D
September 24, 2007 at 12:13 pm
@iddqd
Ok, now I’m sad. Thanks man. My heart cries for these guys at war. ….and to what end????? More contracts for Bush/Cheney’s friends???? WTF????
September 24, 2007 at 12:16 pm
is this a new horror movie?
September 24, 2007 at 12:27 pm
Source?
September 24, 2007 at 12:27 pm
pfft, I laughed.
Makes me wanna shop his head off, and put it on the opposite end of a GIANT pencil.
September 24, 2007 at 12:30 pm
Lord Vader?
September 24, 2007 at 12:31 pm
I find humor in all sorts of fucked up shit……but not this. This is true and sad.
September 24, 2007 at 12:36 pm
It’s okay to laugh. He can’t hear you.
September 24, 2007 at 12:36 pm
Sweet zombie Jesus. They say a picture’s worth 1000 words. I don’t what’s more heartbraking: the look on the bride’s face of “I can’t believe I agreed to go through with this after all” or the aching “Will she really be able to ignore my shattered face” look on the groom.
But I do hope that at 3:00 am, when the demons come, that this is the image that haunts the nightmares of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bremer, Petraus, and the rest. I hope it’s burned into the retinas forever.
Oh yeah, I did laugh at the guy, though. What a freak.
September 24, 2007 at 12:37 pm
Fuckin hell I was sure I wouldn’t laugh at anything related to this but then Ando came along and here we are.
lol
September 24, 2007 at 12:46 pm
I agree with egnilk.
I have a sick sense of humor but I don’t find this funny.
I am not bashing anyone that does find this funny.
September 24, 2007 at 12:48 pm
Nope, I’m not bashing anyone either… But, I live in a Marine Corps town and it’s tough to see this picture and know that some of the guys that live near me or that I drive by every day aren’t going to come home from their deployments….or worse, come home like this poor guy.
September 24, 2007 at 12:49 pm
Things could be worse, at least he appears to have someone who loves him. But all in all it’s very sad
September 24, 2007 at 12:50 pm
This is not at all funny. Shit like this makes me feel full of fail for getting up, going to work, coming home, and watching TV while the bible-thumpin crusaders send these guys out to suffer and die for oil.
September 24, 2007 at 12:50 pm
Does it really look like she loves him anymore?
September 24, 2007 at 12:53 pm
“US Marine Ty Ziegel poses with Renee Kline before their wedding in Washington, Illinois, in July. Ziegel was severely wounded in a suicide bomb attack during his second tour of duty in Iraq. He was blinded in one eye, had a shattered skull, and most of his skin was burned off. The couple were engaged following Ziegel’s first deployment in Iraq. After Ziegel was injured, Kline lived with him for over a year while he recovered at a hospital in Texas.”
www.vfw.org/index.cfm?fa=news.magDtl&dtl=4&mid=4084
www.the-trukstop.com/articles/2007/story_behind_the_photo.html
September 24, 2007 at 12:59 pm
@Aristoi
Thanks for the background….now I’m a crying little bitch.
September 24, 2007 at 1:03 pm
C’mon guys. This is serious… He is a marine, the guy is probably packing a redwood down there. The solemn look on her face is like is the realization that she loves sex a little too much…and it may have affected her judgment.
All playing aside. You can’t find a woman like that these days. That will stick by her man through and through like that. Love conquers all and I still believe in that.
—Response
Bible thumping crusaders? Have you seen what that man monster (Saddam) did to his own people? Educate yourself. Even if we went there for whatever reasons, one less D***less Dictator is gassing his own people.
September 24, 2007 at 1:08 pm
iam.kryspin.net/wp-content/uploads/6938485_detail550.jpg
Before pic.
September 24, 2007 at 1:10 pm
Serious or not, his head still looks like an eraser.
And really.. either way? I’d probably mock him.
He’d tell me not to laugh, because he did it for my freedom.
I’d tell him that he gave up his freedom without asking me if I wanted him to or not.
And that if he was going to try and play that card, then I’d excercise my freedom to be a douche-bag, and laugh at him more.
Then hope that he’d try to kick my ass for it, because I would take pride in excercising the freedoms that people I don’t know sacrifice themselves for, without being asked to.
And really, Iraq isn’t infringing my freedom, if anything, the good ‘ol US of A is doing a far better job of that, because they can pass a law, and suddenly I’M the one that isn’t abiding by the rules, I’M the ‘unpatriotic’ one, because my staged phone calls to my friends are being monitored, and surrendered to make me out to be a terrorist intentionally, so that I can be thrown in jail for a prank that they should have no knowledge of.
Freedom indeed.
September 24, 2007 at 1:15 pm
Holy shittles, I thought this was pretty funny until… I found out it wasn’t shopped. Hot damn, that isn’t funny. But, I mean hey, for all you who think it is; wherever you get your kicks, right?
September 24, 2007 at 2:00 pm
They’ll be fine.
It was either she married him or she went back to working at McDonalds. If anything, this is a step up for her!
What… too far?
September 24, 2007 at 2:21 pm
Tell me….have you really made these staged phone calls and gone to jail for them?
Still living with your folks eh…
September 24, 2007 at 2:47 pm
Don’t we have a civic duty to shop his face back on in all his pics?
September 24, 2007 at 2:52 pm
Hazard, your an asshole.
My kinda asshole.
September 24, 2007 at 5:21 pm
Kaze, your comment has lowered my opinion of you. Before now i admired your wit but that comment went too far.
September 24, 2007 at 6:36 pm
holy shit, i thought Darth Vader couldn’t live without his helmet!
September 24, 2007 at 7:07 pm
Making fun of someone who risked his life for you, and came back with disfiguring injuries is not cool at all. Whether you agree with the war or not (I’m still undecided), we’re there, and he’s following orders, and doing what he signed up for. For that I thank him.
September 24, 2007 at 7:33 pm
Some people give their lives for freedom…this guy gave his face.
September 24, 2007 at 7:39 pm
Also, I think its shopped to look gloomier, who would take a wedding picture with that lighting?
September 24, 2007 at 7:41 pm
OMFG ADMDRACONIS SADAM KILLED NELSON MANDELLA!!
In all seriousness, I’m not quite sure if you can convince me that the Iraqis have it better off now, and certainly the american soldiers don’t, and the rest of you people are about the same off as before, except once in a while you see a pic on the net that gives you a brief moment for pause.
When you’re rich enough to give orders, humans become toys. Bush and Chaney’s morality is shaped by such different assumptions and experiences, we could only pretend to understand it as they pretend to understand our own.
September 24, 2007 at 7:42 pm
You hafta admit, this is pretty gross.
September 24, 2007 at 11:21 pm
Check out the movie THE GROUND TRUTH. This guy is in it. EVERYONE should see this movie. Sad stuff.
September 24, 2007 at 11:56 pm
I’d say “KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!” But it looks like someone already tried that.. Oh well.
September 25, 2007 at 1:20 am
That’s fucking love right there.
September 25, 2007 at 1:36 am
Well…i would like to point something out to all you folks out there bashing the war and demanding that all troops be pulled out. There are a lot of troops (people i know) whom, whilst not enjoying the war of course, don’t want to be pulled out. Most of them want to see this through, thats their job, this is the sort of thing they signed up for and most of them accept that.
From an Aussie point of view, there are a lot of people wanting to go and do their part regardless of what they have seen and what they know (I think the navy has one BIG ass queue of people wanting to go is what i’ve been told). Perhaps thats saying something, perhaps we should take more of a lead from the troops who have been there and seen the effect they have before we all go and write notes to the government demanding they be brought home whilst sitting in our comfy arm chairs…
September 25, 2007 at 2:03 am
Well, Wally, your friends that want to “see it through” are…idiots.
September 25, 2007 at 8:59 am
@ Wally
Jesus man….I don’t even have an arm chair. I have…now get this….a LEG chair.
September 25, 2007 at 1:53 pm
Truth of ht ematter is the US put Saddam in charge and supported him through his atrocities.
His change of heart at listening to washington bullies is what made him a target. The US stills supports terrorist states. Educate Yourselves !
September 25, 2007 at 1:59 pm
Wally: Just because some white folks are kill crazy, doesn’t mean that it’s ethically justifiable. I’ll remind you that the last time some white folks went kill crazy in australia, barrels of preserved “nigger heads” became your major export for a while.
September 25, 2007 at 3:05 pm
I don’t support the troops, but i pay my taxes.
September 25, 2007 at 4:20 pm
I read the story of this man quite a while back, its hard for me to see because the last guy I dated was a Marine, and even though we have parted ways he’s still a friend and I am always worried that this will happen. I have to support the troops, its not their fault we’re in this.
September 25, 2007 at 9:45 pm
Dear javboy,
I’m pretty sure Kaze was not really reliant or even concerned on whether you liked him or not.
PS. Don’t be such a right-wing whore.
October 3, 2007 at 12:25 am
I honestly don’t see how you can make fun of the guy. Maybe just because I am one of the guys currently in iraq. How can you have an opinion on something you know nothing about? if you *think* you know whats *really* going on, where are you getting your information from? most comments on the war are by people who have never been there and pretty much uneducated about the whole thing. i would be willing to bet they would be the ones to try to dodge a draft too. If you wont stand behind the soldiers, feel free to stand in front of em.
October 3, 2007 at 1:34 am
“How can you have an opinion on something you know nothing about?”
The same way you can have an opinion about slavery or the space program despite not having been a slave or having gone to the moon.
“If you wont stand behind the soldiers, feel free to stand in front of em.”
This is the kind of thing that pisses people off about the US military. You’re basically saying, “Support ME or I will shoot you”,right? And when the US is sending that same message to the whole world, you wonder why they fight back.
You know, there are more dangerous jobs than being a soldier: like commercial fishing, linesman or mining. But you don’t hear fishermen getting all high and mighty about how they’re putting their lives on the line(heh, pun intended) to bring you tuna. Every US serviceman knew the risks and volunteered anyway. Great, thanks. Collect your hazard pay, but don’t expect a parade.
October 3, 2007 at 5:46 pm
If you wont stand behind the soldiers, feel free to stand in front of em.
Can’t stand the fact that even though you would die for someone, that someone never gave a damn about you, huh?
I can laugh at that guy because he went with his mentality of “oooh im gonna defend peepz” and he gets blown up by some random asshole. And at the end of the day, he didn’t defend anyone except his ideal of playing “hero”. Which, needless to say, nobody asked him to play.
October 3, 2007 at 6:52 pm
Yeah, those crab fisherman got it pretty tough. But if they didn’t do their job, then you just don’t get any crab. Soldiers got it pretty tough too. Not as dangerous as crab fisherman though. However, if the soldiers didn’t do their jobs, what happens then? Crab fisherman can say screw it. Soldiers can too, but the penalties of doing so would have a lot more impact then a country without crab. I bet if another country invaded the US you might have a little more appreciation for the soldiers.
You haven’t seen what we ARE doing here. You have only seen what the news shows you, all the violance, becacuse they know people, for what ever reason, are attracted to violance. So not of your own fault, you are uneducated about the situation. But sitting at home, behind your computer screen making fun of a guy who was blown up in iraq, regardless of your reasons, is not cool in any way.
October 3, 2007 at 7:23 pm
I just imagine them [the "enemy"] typing the same things to their families.
“If you’d see me, you’d support my cause”
Canada doesn’t have soldiers to the extent of USA, why? They don’t pick fights with everyone. They’re not being all “internet tough guys” to the rest of the world.
If USA would stop blowing up cities everytime a bomb goes off in NY or someone puts up some ATHF brite-lites in Boston, we wouldn’t have this debate that guy wouldn’t look like Nemesis from Resident Evil.
A country doesn’t need soldiers unless it’s preparing for upcoming ass-kicking sessions. Whether it’s their ass or some other country’s.
October 3, 2007 at 7:48 pm
“I bet if another country invaded the US you might have a little more appreciation for the soldiers.”
And I bet if giant crabs invaded the US you might have a little more appreciation for crab fisherman. But guess what? Neither of those things are going to happen, ever. Using that as a threat is a total red herring. Whatever you’re doing in the military, it has nothing to do with defending America or defending freedom. And don’t even start with “liberating Iraq” business, because it was the US that helped put Saddam in power in the first place.
October 3, 2007 at 7:50 pm
I agree with that statement to an extent. People would not need protection if there was nobody to protect them against. However, there are people out there who want to do things like fly planes into buildings and such. It is because of those people, that we need the police and the military. I am sure that the guy who blows up a car in a populated area killing several people just trying to live there lives trying to be happy believes that he did it for a good reason. I have strayed away from why I originally posted in the first place. Regardless of your opinions of the war in iraq or afghanistan, that guy in the picture has it bad enough as it is. No sense on picking on the guy. He did volunteer to join the military.
“Can’t stand the fact that even though you would die for someone, that someone never gave a damn about you…”
Just as most aren’t affected emotionally about those who die that they don’t know, most are also unaffected by the opinions of people they do not know. But the fact that some are willing to activly put their lives on the line for those they DO care about is what makes them slightly better then those who refuse to, or those who wont support them. The guy in the picture deserves respect, and he has mine. I will continue to stand up for him and what I believe is right. I am not trying to be an internet tough guy, if that was directed towards me. Im just standing up for someone getting picked on who isnt around to stand up for himself is all.
October 15, 2007 at 12:46 am
This is fucked up. His whole life is ruined.
His GF doesn’t even want to look at him.
Look at her face.
December 20, 2007 at 4:26 pm
Checking the wiki on him, looks like they got divorced before their 1-year anniversary:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ty_Ziegel
“CNN’s “Waging War on the VA” (Nov 17, 2007) reported that Ty and Renee separated shortly before their one-year wedding anniversary.”
Eddge, i agree with everything you posted. Thanks for volunteering to protect all of us, even those of us that laugh at the ones that come back like Sgt. Ziegel.
December 20, 2007 at 5:10 pm
Thanks for the follow-up, bw135. Kind of inevitable, though.
January 9, 2008 at 10:32 am
Ron Paul will get these guys home from this bullshit war.
We were lied into Iraq & Afghanistan, and all the loser fuckers running for President are so fucking covered with the blood of our troops. Fucking scurvy Pirates, every one of them. Bankrupting our nation like it’s a day at Disneyland.
Except for Ron Paul.
Here is a Youtube vid wherein one of our troops lays it out. my favorite point that this guy makes is that there are all these private contractors over there in Iraq, that are being funded by the US Government, i.e. the American Taxpayer some six figure salaries, while the troops are dying and making dick.
youtube.com/watch?v=5uk-T46soz8
fucking Pirates.
June 28, 2009 at 10:39 am
kaz, and all those who agree with him, need to move the fuck out of my country.
June 28, 2009 at 10:44 am
1) It’s not yours
2) Freedom of speech is a door that swings both ways
3) Suck it
September 27, 2011 at 3:43 am
I will say it for anyone who is afraid to. While going through some of the comments on her, I became appauled. I thought some people were pathetic and ignorant but some of you set a new standard.
To all of you who said this is “pretty funny”, just remember this, that marine who is disfigured received that for you, for your first amendment right to call him what you did. He is disfigured because of defending us and our rights, defending us to keep us safe AND preventing that from becoming YOUR future. If you honestly believe that your justified in saying “that’s funny” or what ever ignorant comment you want to make, I ask you to grow a set and put yourself in the position to become disfigured yourself. But of course most of you lack the b*lls to do it. So instead, just learn some respect, if not, feel free to stand in front of our troops instead of behind them.
September 27, 2011 at 5:39 am
Or he joined up for the same reason most do. The money. Now he got the money, minus a face, hands, lips, hair, etc. But he still got the money.
I’d say Mission Accomplished, soldier!
But, seriously, in respond to your comment:
PFFFTT, suck it.
September 27, 2011 at 6:46 am
It amazes me how many people could care less about people that they don’t know. I guess that’s why it amazes me even more when I come across someone who does care about someone they don’t know. I don’t know the man in the picture. Not personally. I do know that he wears the uniform of a Marine though. I don’t know the current numbers, but about 2 years ago, only about a half a percent of the US served in the military. Maybe he joined for the college money. I don’t know him so I can’t say if he did or didn’t. I know it’s not for the awesome pay though. I know that civilian contractors for the military with the same job as me make about 3x what I make, but their job description lacks several things that mine does not. Our politicians may not have good ideals or values, but I do know that our soldiers do regardless of branch of the military they serve. There are the few that are not quite right in the head, but far and few between are like that. In 8 years of military service, I have yet to meet a soldier that would not willingly give their life to protect those around them. I know that there are a few that serve that would not, but I honestly believe that the Marine in the picture above is not one of those that would not give his life to protect those around him.
Don’t judge the members of our military based off of the actions of our politicians.