Comments on: The hole left by the Dark Ages. http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/06/04/the-hole-left-by-the-dark-ages/ My Confined Space is an image blog with user submitted pictures of anything and everything, funny, serious or dark. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 06:28:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: stalwart http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/06/04/the-hole-left-by-the-dark-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-46759 stalwart Thu, 07 Jun 2007 09:41:05 +0000 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/06/04/the-hole-left-by-the-dark-ages/#comment-46759 The fact that someone got upset that the graph didn't indicate Chinese and other Asian achievements is annoying for myself as well. I mean those achievements are thousands of years old, and they're are very basic achievements. I'd say nutting out the principles of geometry are somewhat more straightforward than calculus or electromagnetism. But that isn't the point either. The fact is that the graph isn't Eurocentric. If I'm not mistalen Egypt is not a part of Europe. The only oversight the makers of this graph can be accused of is historical inaccuracy, I highly doubt they were promoting European supremacy. As you said Magnus, their insecurity, not ours. The fact that someone got upset that the graph didn’t indicate Chinese and other Asian achievements is annoying for myself as well. I mean those achievements are thousands of years old, and they’re are very basic achievements. I’d say nutting out the principles of geometry are somewhat more straightforward than calculus or electromagnetism. But that isn’t the point either. The fact is that the graph isn’t Eurocentric. If I’m not mistalen Egypt is not a part of Europe. The only oversight the makers of this graph can be accused of is historical inaccuracy, I highly doubt they were promoting European supremacy. As you said Magnus, their insecurity, not ours.

]]> By: mAgnUS BUTTfoorson http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/06/04/the-hole-left-by-the-dark-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-46632 mAgnUS BUTTfoorson Wed, 06 Jun 2007 15:37:02 +0000 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/06/04/the-hole-left-by-the-dark-ages/#comment-46632 That's what I was agreeing with before no? Because in saying you like anglo culture there are a lot of spoiled visible minorities who have GREATLY benefited and survived as result of the pursuits and accomplishments of indo Europeans and Anglo Saxons who would call you a Nazi. That's the idiocy I was pointing out. This whole thing started because someone got uppity about no one recognizing their crap ass part of the world in a graph. That stems from the insecurities felt by a lot of races when white people don't put them in front of themselves in terms of importance which is juvenile, moronic, and unfortunately totally socially acceptable. 99.9% of the time it's not a white guy making race the issue but if he says anything to defend his racial lineage the world sees fit to string him up by his neck. There's no need to preach racial harmony to white people anymore. Those with a brain get it. Those without a brain never will. We know everyone should get along. Now take your own fucking advice (addressing everyone who isn't white here) and quit basing your entire identity, community, and family around your race. That’s what I was agreeing with before no?

Because in saying you like anglo culture there are a lot of spoiled visible minorities who have GREATLY benefited and survived as result of the pursuits and accomplishments of indo Europeans and Anglo Saxons who would call you a Nazi. That’s the idiocy I was pointing out.

This whole thing started because someone got uppity about no one recognizing their crap ass part of the world in a graph. That stems from the insecurities felt by a lot of races when white people don’t put them in front of themselves in terms of importance which is juvenile, moronic, and unfortunately totally socially acceptable.

99.9% of the time it’s not a white guy making race the issue but if he says anything to defend his racial lineage the world sees fit to string him up by his neck.

There’s no need to preach racial harmony to white people anymore. Those with a brain get it. Those without a brain never will. We know everyone should get along. Now take your own fucking advice (addressing everyone who isn’t white here) and quit basing your entire identity, community, and family around your race.

]]> By: stalwart http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/06/04/the-hole-left-by-the-dark-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-46629 stalwart Wed, 06 Jun 2007 15:04:50 +0000 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/06/04/the-hole-left-by-the-dark-ages/#comment-46629 Magnus, I'm white. I'm anglo as hell, and I like anglo culture. Fact is, I like you Magnus, your posts are good, and you're honest. But I honestly hate it when science gets juxtaposed with race. Yes, the latest scientific advances have been European. However, none of those scientists, with the exception of a few, devoted any mental energy to their skin colour. All I'm suggesting is that if one part of the world makes an advance, or kills 6 million people, that that does not become the one thing that defines all people form that part of the world. Now that shouldn't be too hard for you too agree with. Magnus, I’m white. I’m anglo as hell, and I like anglo culture.

Fact is, I like you Magnus, your posts are good, and you’re honest.

But I honestly hate it when science gets juxtaposed with race. Yes, the latest scientific advances have been European. However, none of those scientists, with the exception of a few, devoted any mental energy to their skin colour.

All I’m suggesting is that if one part of the world makes an advance, or kills 6 million people, that that does not become the one thing that defines all people form that part of the world.

Now that shouldn’t be too hard for you too agree with.

]]> By: Caio http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/06/04/the-hole-left-by-the-dark-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-46579 Caio Wed, 06 Jun 2007 06:52:07 +0000 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/06/04/the-hole-left-by-the-dark-ages/#comment-46579 Oh, yeah, and the dark ages are different from the high middle ages. This thread sucks. Oh, yeah, and the dark ages are different from the high middle ages. This thread sucks.

]]> By: Caio http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/06/04/the-hole-left-by-the-dark-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-46578 Caio Wed, 06 Jun 2007 06:50:28 +0000 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/06/04/the-hole-left-by-the-dark-ages/#comment-46578 I hate to intrude on these religion debates, but this isn't really an issue of religion at all. The Roman Empire had been going downhill starting when Christianity was an obscure cult that was barely ever mentioned. Some of the reasons I would site would be the devaluation of the currency via heavy debasing, frequent famines reported for at least two centuries, constant outside invasions, and the period of revolving emperors, which took away any vague semblance of political stability. Hell, I'd reckon the reason Christianity caught on in Rome was because things had already gone to hell, and people in desperate times are more willing to grasp onto more extreme belief systems. Oh, yeah, council of Nicea wasn't Rome, it was a Greek speaking city, and I'm pretty sure it's currently in Bulgaria. Of course, that was long before the east/west schism. I hate to intrude on these religion debates, but this isn’t really an issue of religion at all. The Roman Empire had been going downhill starting when Christianity was an obscure cult that was barely ever mentioned. Some of the reasons I would site would be the devaluation of the currency via heavy debasing, frequent famines reported for at least two centuries, constant outside invasions, and the period of revolving emperors, which took away any vague semblance of political stability.

Hell, I’d reckon the reason Christianity caught on in Rome was because things had already gone to hell, and people in desperate times are more willing to grasp onto more extreme belief systems.

Oh, yeah, council of Nicea wasn’t Rome, it was a Greek speaking city, and I’m pretty sure it’s currently in Bulgaria. Of course, that was long before the east/west schism.

]]> By: Namelis1 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/06/04/the-hole-left-by-the-dark-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-46478 Namelis1 Tue, 05 Jun 2007 16:22:47 +0000 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/06/04/the-hole-left-by-the-dark-ages/#comment-46478 And anyway, I'm a closed minded atheist bigot doomed to spend the rest of eternity burning in hell. might as well spend some time being loony. And anyway, I’m a closed minded atheist bigot doomed to spend the rest of eternity burning in hell. might as well spend some time being loony.

]]> By: Namelis1 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/06/04/the-hole-left-by-the-dark-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-46475 Namelis1 Tue, 05 Jun 2007 16:20:18 +0000 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/06/04/the-hole-left-by-the-dark-ages/#comment-46475 @reboot actually I'm just posting to promote the discussion of this topic, and about the sounding looney part, maybe if I act looney, they will think about it and realize that they are doing this too. Its also great fun as I've come to find out recently. Told you this topic would prove controversial. Anyway, the entire graph might be false, but it does illustrate a point. And lastly, somebody mentioned Galileo - I refuse to look at this telescope you made Galileo. Its made by daemons! @reboot actually I’m just posting to promote the discussion of this topic, and about the sounding looney part, maybe if I act looney, they will think about it and realize that they are doing this too.
Its also great fun as I’ve come to find out recently.

Told you this topic would prove controversial.

Anyway, the entire graph might be false, but it does illustrate a point.

And lastly, somebody mentioned Galileo – I refuse to look at this telescope you made Galileo. Its made by daemons!

]]> By: Kaze http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/06/04/the-hole-left-by-the-dark-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-46465 Kaze Tue, 05 Jun 2007 15:21:50 +0000 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/06/04/the-hole-left-by-the-dark-ages/#comment-46465 There are no variables to what defines a 'scientific advancement', so it's an incomplete graph. Why you all are arguing over a series of colored lines is beyond me. There are no variables to what defines a ‘scientific advancement’, so it’s an incomplete graph. Why you all are arguing over a series of colored lines is beyond me.

]]> By: reboot http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/06/04/the-hole-left-by-the-dark-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-46462 reboot Tue, 05 Jun 2007 15:11:26 +0000 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/06/04/the-hole-left-by-the-dark-ages/#comment-46462 @Namelis1 The fact that creationist pull evidence out of their ass is exactly why I bother posting. Atheists should be held to higher standard. Do you really want to sound as looney as creationists? @stalwart Way to miss the point. The graph directly implies that scientific progress was only made in European, which is UNTRUE. Your job as a scientist is to point out things that are UNTRUE. btw, I'm a chem grad student with two b.s.'s so I know exactly what kind of environment research takes place in. But you also have the responsiblity to educate, which is why I stuff post in forums. @Namelis1
The fact that creationist pull evidence out of their ass is exactly why I bother posting. Atheists should be held to higher standard. Do you really want to sound as looney as creationists?

@stalwart
Way to miss the point. The graph directly implies that scientific progress was only made in European, which is UNTRUE. Your job as a scientist is to point out things that are UNTRUE. btw, I’m a chem grad student with two b.s.’s so I know exactly what kind of environment research takes place in. But you also have the responsiblity to educate, which is why I stuff post in forums.

]]> By: mAgnUS BUTTfoorson http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/06/04/the-hole-left-by-the-dark-ages/comment-page-1/#comment-46456 mAgnUS BUTTfoorson Tue, 05 Jun 2007 14:14:17 +0000 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/06/04/the-hole-left-by-the-dark-ages/#comment-46456 I would have guessed you were an Engrish major? I like his 'nerds all get along so why can't you?' logic. Make forced abstinence leads to racial harmony? Of course if you in any way defend the position of indo Europeans you're a white supremacist...lol. Get back to pretending you're smart Mr. Chiney man. I would have guessed you were an Engrish major?

I like his ‘nerds all get along so why can’t you?’ logic.

Make forced abstinence leads to racial harmony?

Of course if you in any way defend the position of indo Europeans you’re a white supremacist…lol.

Get back to pretending you’re smart Mr. Chiney man.

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